You already had Michael Turner. His name was LaMont Jordan, and you let him walk in free agency.
Don’t expect big things from Turner. Tatum Bell averaged over 5 YPC as a backup too, y’know.
More importantly, I’m willing to bet Kevin Smith outperforms every other rookie running back this season, assuming he gets drafted by a team that actually needs a back.
Led the nation in carries, yards and touchdowns and set the #2 all-time mark for rushing yardage - and he wasn’t even a Doak Walker finalist. F**k you, SMU.
Meaningless. On that basis, the Eagles will cut Brian Westbrook tomorrow to free up the cap room to sign Duce Staley. Hell, Butch Davis coached Clinton Portis, but passed on him in the draft to take William Green - because he didn’t think Portis was big enough to handle the cold-weather conditions in Cleveland.
Portis, for those of you who forgot, was Rookie of the Year - in Denver.
You’re welcome, but he’s a much better QB than DA is. If Boller had been your QB, with the line and receiving talent y’all have, you’d have made the playoffs last year.
Law of averages. Not very often does the consensus number one back come out and crush it that first year. Oh, a rookie running back has the best chance to succeed in the pros out of any other rookie position, but I’d put my money on a “lesser” back.
Yea, I know. You hate Kyle Boller. You’ve been saying it for years. I get it.
You’re flat out wrong though. Boller is a better QB than DA. Put him on a team that (last year) had a better line the Ravens, with a better TE (Heap was out all year) and talented #1 WR (instead of young #2s with upside and old #2s with experience and not much else) and I’m telling you he gets the Clowns to the postseason. I spent the whole season watching not the QB (any of them) but the play around them. If you do that it becomes crystal clear when the main problem was with the '07 Ravens, and it isn’t named Kyle, Steve or Troy.
Dude, I said it once. In 2004. How the hell did you remember that? I had to search to figure out what you were talking about, and even then I didn’t remember that thread until I got to page 2ish and the “monkeys flinging poo” part.
I’d say so. So, for the bet to be valid, he has to start at least one game and also have more total yards from scrimmage than any other rookie running back, yes?
Hehe. Wanna know how I remembered that? I thought “Boy, what an appropriate user name (WRT your opinion of Boller)” and it’s stuck for 4 years. You made an impression!
Well, for the bet to not be cancelled, he has to start a game (since I did say if he goes to a team that actually needs a back)… and for me to win, he has to have more yards from scrimmage than any other rookie tailback (or fullback, I suppose).
I was going to ask for it to be a push if he gets hurt in week 2 or something, but one of his selling points is that he’s never been seriously injured.
Maybe I wouldn’t mind losing this bet to LOUNE, then…
I still think you were being the dick in that thread, not me… but on the other hand I was wrong about Boller getting benched midseason (although with 13 total TD passes on the year, maybe that says more about Billick than Boller).
Plus, I definitely believe Boller gives the Ravens a much better shot to win than what’s left of Steve McNair. Troy Smith I haven’t seen enough of yet.
I meant “combine the promise of Peterson with the letdown of Bush.”
I expect him to be a good back, which is why I phrased it as the worst possible combination of a great back and an above-average back. I don’t expect him to be a great back, so I very much don’t want the Jets to spend a top 10 pick on him.
Gang Green hasn’t had the best track record with top 10 picks of late. Dewayne Robertson (#4 overall) is about to be cut because Mangini can’t grasp the 4-3, and D’Brickashaw Ferguson (also #4 overall) isn’t looking particularly worth his contract.
The last thing I want is another great NCAA talent picked way too high based on potential and promise only to be “decent” in the pros. That’s the main reason I’m so thrilled that Big Blue picks last; late first rounders seem to turn into better picks, like Aaron Ross for the G-Men or Nick Mangold, the Jets center they took later in the same round they got Ferguson. While Mangold isn’t setting the league on fire either, he’s looked better than Brick.
I wouldn’t mind trading up with Miami to get Ryan. I was a big fan of Kellen Clemens until I saw him play. (“The backup quarterback is always the most popular guy in town.”)
That makes a lot more sense.
I’m not high on any of the quarterbacks in this draft. I like Josh Johnson, but more as an athlete or a project than someone that’s NFL ready. Maybe the one I like most is Joe Flacco, with regards to being NFL ready. I’m kinda digging Brian Brohm too, but I fear that he’s a system quarterback. I think Colt Brennan might make himself look better than people originally thought.
By the way, your running back comparison is much better now. thanks for clearing it up.
Thank god I’m first and foremost a Giants fan, because not only do I agree that the quarterbacks in the draft aren’t any great shakes, and not only do I think the free agents available are also crap, but I don’t think the quarterbacks the Jets already have are any good either.
If they traded up to get Ryan, at least I could tell myself that they see something in him and it will be worth it. Eli is only worth the trade made to get him because of his Superbowl MVP; if he’d won it without distinguishing himself, then it still wouldn’t have been worth it when Accorsi could’ve just drafted Ben and been done with it.
But that trade moved the Giants up from #4 to #1. Moving up from #6 to #1 for Ryan strikes me as a really bad idea, since I don’t see any QB in the draft or free agency as being anyone more special than Alex Smith.
Speaking of Alex Smith, are there any 49ers fans here who can talk about the extension Smith just got? I wasn’t stunned by the news only because I don’t really care about the '9ers. But I was as surprised as you get. I have him pegged as a David Carr / Tim Couch type bust.
