you are right i shouldn’t have gotten so annoyed. i hate it when the falcons play the steelers. unfortunately i have to go for atlanta because they are my home team but the next one isn’t until 2006 so i’m ok until then. but since the falcons are in the nfc and the steelers are in the afc i don’t have much confilct
Frankly, I think ‘mediocre’ applied to the Cardinals is rather generous.
I hate the Dolphins…as a Bucs fan (and owner of the hideous orange and white shirt that proves it) since before there was a wagon to do any banding on, their constant belief that Jay Fiedler isn’t crap and that Dave Wannstedt is truly capable of coaching at the NFL level is touching, yet desperately irritating. The Jaguars annoy me because they fired Tom Coughlin, who basically singlehandedly built the most successful expansion franchise in NFL history. As far as I’m concerned, you don’t fire him unless you have Jon Gruden lined up, and Jack Del Rio is not quite on that level…
For some reason, I’m kinda fond of the Bengals. Being a fan of any Tampa team, of course, means you must have some degree of feeling for an underdog…
I wanted to add… I used to hate the 9ers too, but Terrell Owens has comepletely changed my mind about them… the sharpie thing and the pom-pom thing and the general “I’m the best” attitude are annoying as hell from Al Davis but from Terrell they’re just amusing.
Let the record show that Al Davis is a prick and ought to have his toupee yanked off and ritually urinated upon.
If you “have to go for atlanta” then you’re a Falcons fan, and not a steelers fan. That’s the way it is.
I have to stick up for my hometown Colts here. They didn’t just “up and leave for no good reason.” They left because they wanted a new stadium. Other teams have done it. The Rams moved to St. Louis. The Raiders move anytime they feel board in either Oakland or LA (make up your mind, Al!). The Browns moved to Baltimore with “no good reason,” yet somehow the people of Baltimore don’t see a double standard there. They lost there team, whined about it for years, then go and steal another city’s team. Hypocrits? Oh, I forgot, they left the name and records in Cleveland. That makes it all better. The truth is that the owners, not the city, own the teams (except for Green Bay) and can move anytime they can get out of a contract with the city.
That being said, I don't think much of Irsay, or his father before him, as an owner.
I grew up a Cowboys fans, but I can't stand Jerry Jones. They day Emmitt Smith left for Arizona is the day the last shred of my allegiance to the Cowboys died. It was withering away for years, but that was the died is was completely gone.
On the other hand, I used to hate the Steelers but now cheer for them. I used to hate Oakland, too, and still them Al Davis is a jerk, but the team is OK. They are not helping my fantasy team this year though. I am benching Gannon this week for Patrick Ramsay (NEVER thought I would be doing that at the beginning of the season) and if Garner doesn't start getting the ball, my season is screwed.
I hate the 49ers. Never against the players, but I just hate that team. I love seeing them lose.i’m more of a falcons fan than a steelers fan but that doesn’t mean i don’t go for the steelers. once again one is in the afc and the other is in the nfc. i can usually go for both without conflict
You do know that the facts disagree with what you’ve posted, don’t you? Just wondering if you’re interested in accuracy or knee jerk responses, that’s all.
Actually, my comment was more of a tongue-in-cheek jibe at mouthbreather, who started by slamming my Ravens. If i had realized that people actually took such comments seriously, i might have been more circumspect, but i was under the impression that threads like this are never particularly serious.
Oh please, spare us the melodrama.
Sure, everyone knows that trash-talking the fans of another team is silly and illogical. It’s just as silly and illogical as spending every Sunday cheering for a team consisting of a bunch of multi-millionaires who you’ll never meet, and who generally don’t even come from the town that they play for. Modern sports fandom is largely irrational, but it’s fun. We’re doing little more than cheering for two companies that are playing one another; the companies just happen to be named after cities, that’s all.
Of course, some people take the trash-talking too far, making it very insulting and serious, and it can even degenerate into violence when it happens in person. And not just at English soccer matches either. This sort of thing is unacceptable. But a bit of good-natured ribbing is no more harmful or silly than being a sports fan in the first place.
No one stated that this was to be a tongue-in-cheek posting; the question was which NFL team was most annoying, and you decided to pick on the fans of one team. If it was just a joke aimed at mouthbreather, I’m sorry for overreacting, but other posters have made negative comments about Steeler fans in general, and I’m thinking: What did I do to them?
What melodrama? Is it melodrama when someone punches you in the face because you like the Ravens? In Pittsburgh last year, two dimwits got into an argument about the Steelers with someone who didn’t care one whit about them; they beat him to death in a bathroom.
To have good-natured ribbing, you have to establish a good nature to begin with. How do you judge good-natured ribbing when someone just drops into a thread and says that most Steeler fans are:
when everyone else is talking about teams and players. You’ve gone from trash talking to ad hominem attacks. If you wanted to insult or trash-talk to mouthbreather, talk to him, and leave the rest of us out of it, mmmkay?
Trash-talking is a tool for the actual players to use to psych themselves up for the game, which is necessary for them- emotional intensity is part of the game. When used in this context, it’s just an insult- who’s really playing this game?
Sigh.
Jesus, if it makes you feel better, i’m sorry for the generalization.
But i was under the impression that conversations on this message board started out with an assumption of good nature. I’m sorry you apparently don’t feel that to be the case. Mouthbreather certainly didn’t seem to take my comment too seriously.
I’m off now to don the sackcloth and start with the ashes.
Steeler fans have been known to completely drop the "f"s and the "g"s from their alphabets. Replacing them with “ph” and “gh” respectively. Sociologists are unsure why. A disturbing trend also shows Steeler fans who also engage in fantasy football have a 92% chance of suffering a major brain seize on the 12th week of the fantasy season. This also has most sociologists stumped, so they just point and laugh.
Smack talk. It needed to be done
That’s about the best thing y’all could hope for, seeing as how I am taking you small children to school in the SMDB keeper league. 
Maybe now y’all will believe me when I say my general dislike for Stiller fans-and I generally exclude the posters on this board-is based upon the er, uncivilized actions of many if not most of them here in Baltimore.
Not your fault or responsibility, no, but if you identify with a group of people of whom a large preportion act atrociously, you can’t be suprised if people tend to assume you’re like that until they get to know you the individual and figure out that you’re different.
So the majority of Steeler fans are as described? Fine. I guess I’ll just live up to your expectations.
Baltimore Ravens fans condone murder, as long as Ray Lewis or one of his cohorts is the murderer. They hate the Steelers out of sheer envy, their second-rate Browns castoff team is going to get their heads handed to them on a platter by Kansas City, and Jamal Lewis is going to choke or get hurt. The Super Bowl victory was a payoff to Modell for allowing the team to move into a more profitable market, because the Potomac Watershed Indigenous Persons can’t get it done in Maryland. The Colts left town just because of the stink.
I may be in the cellar of the keeper league, but look at the Adams league- it all balances out.
NurseCarmen, that’s strong smack talk for a little girl.*
Weirddave, if I changed my name now it would be an admission of defeat. I’m stuck with this fight, and you’re right- everyone must assume I’m an asshole because I chose a name.
If you want to talk smack, put your money where your mouth is. I guess this will be in the Pit soon- where Pittsburgh fans belong, right?
you tell them
See, SP, your problem is that you take everything personally. You did it last year too. I post an explanation about an attitude being discussed, and hey look, did you even notice this line:
…and you go off with a weak immitation of smack talk. Dude, a majority of Stiller fans around here ( in Baltimore ) are obnoxious assholes. Mhendo, an Aussie who is just learning about football in the last few years notices the same thing. This dosen’t include you. I specifically excluded you and other posters on these boards. Stop sitting on a cross and waving a hammer and nails in my face, I’m not going to mount you up there.
Weirddave,
I'd like to know what, exactly, I stated that was not true or was a "knee-jerk response." The very first post refers to the Colts being "stolen" from Baltimore with no further explanation. I'd say that is the knee-jerk, unproven response. The Colts left for Indianapolis. The Browns left for Baltimore. What is the difference? Two teams with long NFL traditions in one city and a strong fan base that both lost their teams to another city.
If the Colts leave for LA, as has been rumored, I am not going to hate the team for it. They have good reasons to make the move. I can't say I would be surprised. I also cannot say that I would support essentially giving a $10-20 million handout to Jim Irsay to get them to stay, if thats what it would take. Its business. The cities do not have control over the destiny of the team other than via the contract between the team and the facility they play home games in. Quite frankly Indianapolis has not show that it is big enough or has enough hard core football fans to support a pro granchise. If they leave, you won't see me complaining about how LA stole the team.Well, the thing I had an issue with in your last post was the statement that there was no difference between the Colts going to Indy and the Browns coming here. Bob Irsay held a press conference 2 months before he skipped town and announced he wasn’t moving-that’s a direct quote-“I am not moving the Goddamn team”. Also, the Maryland legislature was looking at ways to rennovate Memorial Stadium for him-remember that was back in the day before new stadiums were being built to lure teams. Part of the reason he left was so that he could still use that excuse.
Art Modell told Cleveland that he needed a new stadium to be financially competative and they told him to go screw 'cuz they had just spent 1/2 a billion dollars on the Cavs and Indians. He left a city he’d given his heart and soul to for 30 years because otherwise he was going to go broke and even that didn’t save him, he had to sell anyway. The irony here is that Cleveland had to promise to build a stadium to get guaranteed a new team because Municipal Stadium was not an NFL class facility. If they’d done that in the first place, Modell never would have left. He didn’t want to leave, he was forced to as a last resort. He also had the class to leave the legacy behind. The Browns still play in Cleveland. You can poo-poo that but it means a LOT. The ONLY thing I regret about the Colts playing in Indy is that they have a name that belongs to us. The team should be the Racers or the Corn Queens or whatever you guys want to call it. “Colts” belongs here in Baltimore.
Ok, I don’t want you to mount me either.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that… it’s just not me.
I just don’t talk smack. That’s why I had a problem with Diplomacy- I can’t tell between smack talk and real threats, I’ve heard too many of the threats. My point was that trash talk can be looked at in the most unfavorable light by the recipient if there’s no prior relationship or good will. I responded to mhendo’s blanket statement and all the others; I see that no other Steeler fans think it’s appropriate to say anything, so I’ll back off. It’s not like anything I say would affect anyone’s opinion about these things; I guess there will always be an opposing opinion, and it’s some people’s right to be obnoxious about expressing it.
This is the most annoying thing about the NFL- and sports in general. Too many people run their mouth in “smack talk” and don’t realize how evil the bile they’re spewing really is.