It was well after the whistle, and Forte was definitely “down” (in the sense that forward progress had been stopped and the play was blown dead). I know you don’t think I’m the most reliable witness, but if you watch the replay, you can see it wasn’t close. It was probably the stupidest, most indefensible penalty of the night for the Packers in a game that was full of them.
Yes, the whistle had clearly blown, dumb penalty.
The other killer that was not in any way induced by the Bears was the Roughing the Passer that negated the interception. Clearly a penalty (helmet right under Cutler’s chin) and one that just should not happen.
Stupid penalty then. One of many.
That was by far the worst in terms of effect on the game.
As a Bear fan, I’m obviously gloating, and I’ll settle down. Going into the game, the Packers were obviously the better team, and I was worried. Not so much anymore. If we can beat them, we can beat anyone.
The Packers played like they were back in the Forrest Gregg era last night. The slam on Forte, the chin shot on Cutler, and the whining by the DB’s afterwards in the locker room.
NOT pass interference? Please. That gets called every time.
What bugs me is the continued lack of respect from the media. Don’t get me wrong, I love being the underdog, but come on! Detroit should have been a pushover, but Dallas and GB were the favorites to go to the Super Bowl! The old cliche is “good teams find ways to win” and that’s exactly what the Bears have done this year.
Where’s the love?
Oh i cry bullshit on that… Too many games in the crappy stadium… plus the NFL has so many security personnel on the field. I think Collins is just pissed off
Yeah Mozart… its gettin old. And the hate for Cutler?? The guy is probably to best qb when you are talking physical tools the Bears have ever had…
Dallas aren’t anyone’s favorites to go to the Super Bowl. It’s just a nice storyline because the Super Bowl is in Dallas this time around.
No talking head actually believes that Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett can coach their way out of a paper bag, much less to a Super Bowl.
Anyway, the Bears are 3-0. Make it to 5-0 and you’ll get some love.
So what? You’re talking about a franchise whose last good quarterback was Jim McMahon - and McMahon sucked.
I would get over it, if I were you. Seriously, you have won three games, including one you were supposed, one very good win against Dallas, and one at home in a not overly convincing manner. You have not been to the playoffs since 2006, last year your team was 9-7. I don’t know what you expect? They media has prasied the Bears quite a bit, but you seem to be upset they haven’t cristened them the favorites in the NFC.
Yeah, this game was definitely one of those “the bears didn’t win, the packers lost” scenarios.
Yes, but not all teams that find ways to win are good teams.
Sure, be excited about a 3-0 start. But, try to not wear those rose-colored glasses too often. If the Bears are still on the top of the heap in a few weeks, more people will be convinced.
Finding ways to win makes you a good team. It’s finding ways to lose (see packers) that should make people question the annointed.
With the Giants the only decent team out of the next six games, I think we have a shot. No rose colored glasses required.
I was listening to some nonsense on ESPN Radio about how Mike McCarthy screwed up by not letting the Bears score. He trotted out the stats about the gimme field goal with no time ismissed like 4%, but letting the other team score and gettng the ball back with a minute and half rasies it to 15%. Yeah I don’t dispute the numbers so much as the logic.
Where does it say that the Bears had to score a touchdown? Theat exact logic would apply to Lovie telling his players to take a knee at the 1 if the Pack tried to let them score (see MJD). So McCarthy can’t assume that the Bears are going to waltz into the endzone if they let them.
A bigger mistake was McCarthy challenging that fumble and throwing away a timeout that might have given Rodgers 30 or 40 seconds to drive down the field and try to get a tying field goal instead of having to try to score with a Stanford Band routine at the end.
Agreed. I didn’t see a single angle on the replays which were shown immediately after the play which suggested there was any doubt at all. Either McCarthy got bad advice from his staff who had access to those views, or he just made a bad call on his own. Either way, it was a dumb choice.
Speaking of challenges, what the fuck were the Refs smoking on that Kuhn run where they didn’t blow the whistle. That was easily one of the most egregious calls I have ever seen and I was pissed that the Bears had to burn one of their challenges on that garbage. I’m glad we have replay and all, but the refs need to at least be able to make those calls right. Had the Bears been screwed later because they lacked another challenge I’d have been going all Unabomber.
The giants have yet to prove they’re decent yet…their only win was to a hapless carolina squad.
But I think the next six games will show a lot about what the bears are made out of. It’s not just beating good teams that count, it’s not losing to bad teams (like what the packers did on MNF. :D)
I would point to the last two Packer possessions, where they couldn’t convert on 4th and goal and the fumble. The packers, as a team, were just playing badly. While it may be 15% on average, last night it was probably a lot lower.
Imho, you can’t really point to one thing that happened that caused the packers to lose. There were so many mistakes and miscues it was like the keystone kops out there.
Well, sorta. The hit arrived as the ball was being released, and clearly affected the throw. There would have been no interception without the hit.
Actually, it wasn’t egregious at all. I saw Kuhn contact multiple Packers on his way down, but I didn’t see any defenders touch him.