NFL Week 5

It seems strange how quietly the apparent live FG interference by a camera cable, significant on replay, has died. The NFL basically says, “Ha, weird. Next time, we’ll try to have someone let us know.”

Had the Vikings lost the game, the controversy might still be raging.

Sure, or even if it interfered a miss into a successful try. But that 51 yd kick was probably going to score and they’re brushing it off like it minorly touched a punt or cointoss or something less relevant.

Which is why I was wondering why the Vikes didn’t raise hell at the time.

That’s a clickbait article. The proof is where it says:

Given the flight path of the ball, it seems like there’s a pretty good chance this kick hit something along the way, which caused it to curve to the right so sharply.

“Um, we think that it hit something so we’re going to say it hit the cable even though you don’t see that happen in any video footage.”

Even further:

However, according to a report, the NFL claimed it did not have a clear enough view of whether or not the football hit a cable, which is why no action was taken in the wake of this miss.

There’s nothing strange about there being no controversy over something that people are guessing might have happened.

This seems pretty convincing to me.

Edit: I found a pic that seems to have better resolution.

I probably could have found a better summary but wanted a cite with the NFL’s reply.

Here’s where I first saw it after the game on Sunday and better vid:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/1nz491l/minnesota_vikings_field_goal_attempt_was/

A video where someone talks about a picture?!

That’s a picture of a ball with distance between it and the wire. If anything it suggests it didn’t happen.

That’s the first video I’ve seen that actually shows the full path of the kick. It definitely looks weird, but what it doesn’t look like is a ball going one direction, hitting something, and being deflected, as if it bounced off something. It’s curving in a strange manner, but I’ve seen a ball curve like that from spin before. And you can’t see the wire at all in the video, which doesn’t help.

I’m not saying that the ball absolutely didn’t hit the wire, but there isn’t enough evidence to say it did. The NFL handled it correctly. It’s unfortunate that there isn’t any good video to determine either way, but of course the people taking video couldn’t have anticipated this and it would just be luck to catch it well enough to say either way.

Regardless of what might have happened in this kick, there is a good question, I think. Are there wires that hang in that could obstruct the path of a field goal that is on the way to making it? Because if the answer is “yes”, regardless of whether or not that happened in that game, they need to address that. If the answer is “no”, and the only way a kick could hit a wire is if it was in a trajectory that wouldn’t put it anywhere near being a successful kick, then there isn’t an issue.

I’m curious what might happen if a person kicked the ball, it was off-course, hit a wire, and then got deflected between the uprights?

Most damning for me was that the wire appeared steady at first, then after the ball began curving weird, you can see the wire moving significantly back and forth.

I can understand not noticing that in the game without a lengthy delay, but It’s pretty clear now.

Videos, stills, NFL statements. What would convince you? That ball hit a cable and I want to know what the NFL’s plans are for next time a ball hits another cable. Or the first time, I guess, sheesh.

There is no video that shows it. There isn’t. It’s unfortunate, but no video shows the ball deflecting off a cable. If there was, I’d be right there with you.

Can you show me that? Sincerely. There must be one I didn’t see. If there was such a video, that would absolutely convince me. I’ve only seen two videos; the first one that was so zoomed out you can’t see the cable, the second is zoomed in on the kicker and misses the ball for most of the kick; it only shows the ball after it’s veering right already and presumably hit the cable (if it happened), and while you see the cable for a bit the camera is moving too fast to tell anything about the state of the cable. But there could be a 3rd video I haven’t seen, that’s absolutely possible and if there is I’d appreciate seeing it, I would love to see it.

This is the clearest I’ve seen. It’s a reddit video, so I can’t embed it directly.

yeah, that’s pretty clear.

That’s the one I referenced, where you can’t see the ball hit the cable or see what the cable looks like before it’s already veering, because it was zoomed in on the kicker. You do not see a “steady cable that moves after being hit”, that is not captured.

So no, you’re talking about something you can’t see on video.

We’re going to disagree then. I pretty clearly see the cable bounce up in that video.

That’s absolutely fair. :+1:

Via Babylon Bee: Sanchez sentenced to 5 years with the Jets:

Brian

Occam’s Razor.

Either the ball hit the wire, deflected in exactly the direction it would have if it hit the wire, and the wire reacted exactly as if it had been hit. Or the wire was flapping wildly for unknown reasons, the ball changed course abruptly due to aerodynamic effects, and the video catches those two events perfectly aligned in time and perspective.

I understand being contrarian sometimes, but if this were a court of law this would stretch the bounds of “reasonable”doubt.

This would be easier if the NFL weren’t burying the video from the camera positioned on the grassy knoll. In that one you can clearly see the wire moves back, and to the left…back, and to the left.

Nice.