NFL Week 5

I’ll start this because we don’t have one yet. Hope I don’t screw it up.

TNF
LAR @ SEA

Early
NYJ @ PHI
JAX @ CAR
MIN @ NYG
ATL @ HOU
TB @ NO
BUF @ TEN
ARI @ CIN
NE @ WAS
BAL @ PIT
CHI @ OAK

Late
DEN @ LAC
GB @ DAL
IND @ KC

MNF
CLE @ SF

Good lord those Seattle uniforms are ugly.

They give them an unfair advantage. How can you cover or tackle someone you can’t look at?

As a Seattle fan I approve.

Every goddamn game against the Rams. I freaking swear. :mad:

My nerves are freaking shot.

Thank the refs. The penalty against Matthews was crap.

I don’t disagree. Though I do recall the cheap shot he hit Russell with in the NFC Championship game that was ignored (helmet to helmet) so maybe that’s belated karma.

But yeah that looked to me like a shoulder hit right after the ball was thrown, so neither late nor too rough. Bad penalty.

Giving it more thought, I think it was an undeserved penalty but not a bad call.

Roughing the passer penalties are called in real time from a ref based on what he sees. It’s not something that can be challenged nor is it reviewed. If you look at how Matthews made his hit, while it’s clear on replay it was clean the way it was done could easily look like helmet-to-helmet depending on where you’re standing. It’s like a fake punch done for a kung fu movie that looks like it connects but it doesn’t. So I don’t blame the ref, though clearly it wasn’t a bad hit and there’s no way Clay gets a fine.

In terms of fairness, Ansah was called for a penalty after tripping over a lineman and stumbling into Goff because he hit him low. It was clearly not intentional and I don’t think he could stop, he pretty much fell into him. If you want to talk about refs gifting a team with an unwarranted roughing penalty, it happened to both sides. As with the hit on Wilson, this occurred on a 3rd down incompletion and the penalty led eventually to a TD. So you can’t really say the refs gave this one to a team unless you erase the score from both sides.

I wish I had a bookie. Pats giving up only 15.5 pts against the Redskins.

Even though I watched it live I was wrong about the Matthews roughing play. I thought it was a late down but it was a 1st and 10 situation. People are acting like that play gave the Seahawks the game but if that flag wasn’t thrown it would have still been 2nd down in Rams territory. Getting 15 yards helps but it wasn’t like that decided the game.

I just think it’s weird how I could misremember that badly.

I also remember two plays I thought might get penalties; Aaron Donald landing on Wilson and Clowney getting his arms around Goff’s general neck area. Neither was flagged nor should they have been, but as strict as they are these days they could have been. The refs weren’t going too crazy with roughing.

Some random thoughts from a Seahawk fan

  1. Those uniforms were offensively ugly
  2. Great interception
  3. Great end zone catch by Lockett
  4. I really hate the “pretend to run a play but really just trying to get the opponent to jump offsides” move. It’s okay to do a hard count or whatever if you’re actually going to run a play, but when you have no intention of snapping the ball you just look like a bunch of no-confidence pussies. Plus, it almost never works.
  5. Seattle defense sure let L.A. move the ball in the 4th quarter.

I basically agree here - I think it was a well-called game over all (if you consider the post-challenge revisions as the ‘call.’) While the roughing-the-passer on Matthews was an exception, it happened on an early down on a drive when the Seahawks were easily moving the ball down the field. If that’s enough to make you say, “Thank the refs”, then there’s basically no close NFL game you can consider legitimate.

As a Bengals fan watching those highlights, the whole time I was thinking “Man! THAT’S what NFL offenses look like!”

My thought was that they were playing soft coverage. Like they were okay allowing underneath plays but not explosive ones. I’m not sure Goff is too much of an explosive threat, and those little 7-12 yard run-out-the-sideline plays will kill you. It was like they were walking casually down the field. It’s also possible that wasn’t by design but they just aren’t good at defending against that. I hope it was a bad game plan and not a lack of talent by the defense.

Man, that Lockett touchdown was a thing of beauty. In real time, I thought “There is no way in hell he got his feet down.” Perfection.

I wonder if bright garish uniforms like that are supposed to help the QB (Wilson) a bit. When scanning downfield, it is just that tiny bit easier to spot your WR deep downfield if he’s in ugly bright yellow than if he is in a more subtle color?

I hate all the “color rush” uniforms.

I’ll never forget the Condiment Bowl.

Go Ketchup!

I just read a headline entitled: “Is Gardner Minshew the next Tom Brady?”

What.
The.
Fuck.

Of course it’s all to get clicks, but the stupidity of “hot takes”, making grand conclusions from one game (There is no fucking way to conclude that Daniel Jones was worth the #6 pick in the draft after one fucking game), and every game being called a “must win” just stupidifies the conversation about NFL football. It’s so dumb.

But this story of a reactionary asshat who quit his stadium job after the kneeling protests by the Bills’ players has now been convicted of domestic battery made me smile, so there is that.
Anyway, some of the things I’m looking forward to this weekend:

  1. I never thought I’d say it, but the Titans/Bills game is intriguing. Both teams have pretty good defenses (and inconsistent offenses), so hopefully it will be a good defensive game instead of a bad offensive one. I still have no respect for Josh Allen as an NFL QB, but I hope his head is OK.

  2. Although I get a week off from the Dolphins floundering, I still have to hear about the horrid Jets (how does Adam Gase continue to get jobs?), the dysfunctional Washington team (Sorry fans, but the more pain for Daniel Snyder the better), and the Bengals.

  3. Did Detroit’s defensive gameplan against KC help set a blueprint (No, Reid will adjust, because that’s what he’s great at). Is Kirk Cousins really that bad of a QB? (I didn’t think so, but he’s doing nothing to prove his critics wrong). Will Jon Gruden assign the entire offensive line to stop Khalil Mack (he might have to. Although I don’t really blame Gruden for trading Mack; it sounds like it was a “we don’t have the money” owner caused things and they got great value for him).

  4. The continued use of backup QB’s. Teddy Bridgewater, Chase Daniels, Kyle Allen, Luke Falk, Colt McCoy, Jacoby Brissett, and my current mancrush Garrett Minshew are all players I never thought I’d see this season. Outside of the really horrible teams with no support (Jets. Washington), they’ve been doing pretty well all things considered.

  5. Cowboys/Packers will be a fascinating test. Can the Packers D give up 300 yards rushing in one game? Is Dak Prescott actually better than I thought or is beating up on the shittiest teams in the NFL (Dolphins, Washington, and the Giants) inflated his value (I hope so. I really want Jerry Jones to make him the highest paid player ever in the NFL)? Can Rodgers and LeFleur get more than a first quarter of greatness out of this offense, especially without Davante Adams? Should be a great game to watch.

Enjoy the weekend.

I can see the parallels; a QB drafted late (Minshew was the 178th pick, Brady was the 199th pick), physical skills weren’t impressive but mental skills were praised, sat as a backup until the starter was hurt then suddenly put on the field and now the team is better!

But Minshew can never be Brady, because as a rookie, Brady was 1 for 3 for 6 yards. Minshew far surpassed that. :wink:

Nobody is talking about the Bengals, not even here in Cincinnati.