I liked seeing Rodgers get all pissy when one of his offensive linemen, celebrating a touchdown pass, took Rodgers to the ground while over-enthusiastically hugging him.
The kickoff rules this year are pretty convoluted but the results are pretty good. Returns are common and fairly exciting. Not sure what the average field position is. Teams are getting better at pinning the return team within the 20 fairly often.
Chiefs pull Patrick Mahomes in the 3rd quarter up 31-0. I like the trust in their defense.
Bears save themselves by commiting a penalty. They go for it on 4th and goal at the one. Caleb Williams fumbles the snap (not his fault) and falls on it for what would have been a turnover on downs. But because the center double clutched the snap, it was a false start penalty, so instead they get 4th and goal from the 6, and they kick the field goal. Sometimes things just go your way.
Today the Chiefs defeated the Raiders 31-0. That was the first regular-season shutout for Andy Reid.
It was total domination by the Chiefs. KC outgained LV 434-96. The Raiders ran only 30 plays from scrimmage. TOP was 42:08 to 17:52. Raiders had 3 first downs, 1 of which was via a penalty.
Losing to the Browns, maybe not. That defense might be the best in the league. It’s just that the offense is giving their opponents 20 possessions per game.
Getting crushed by the Browns who have no offense at all might get him fired.
And, if you take a casual look at the Rams’ win over the Jags to the tune of 35-7, you’d expect a similar level of statistical dominance…
Except that the Jags outgained the Rams by 87 yards. Was it turnovers? Nope, none by either side. A lot of big special teams plays? Nay, other than a lone missed FG by the Jags. Penalties? OK yeah 119 to 45 yards, but that can’t be the entire story either. So, WTFH?
Jacksonville was an abysmal 2 for 6 on 4th down, all 4 well in solid FG range. If they make the one they did attempt and kick on the other 3 shots they had in quarters 1-3, they are down 21-12 going into the fourth quarter.
Of course, the Rams promptly scored a TD on their first 4Q drive, and that was that one way or another.
Of course. But if you’re trying to determine why a team lost poorly, and say that turnovers weren’t a part of it when they had 4 different turnovers on downs, then effectively turnovers did play a part.
There is no actual difference between a turnover on downs at a particular spot, or an interception or fumble where the ball was dead at the same spot, aside from a statistic. The end result is an unplanned change of possession. Hence why it’s called a turnover on downs.
In fact, I’ve seen plays where a team hucks it on 4th down and a defender intentionally bats the ball down rather than trying to intercept it, because the turnover on downs is more likely to give the defending team’s offense a better field position.
I don’t disagree with anything you state in this post, but, officially, failing to convert a 4th down attempt is not a turnover.
Is a failed field-goal attempt a turnover? The result of the play gives the ball to the opposition. Yet nobody every considers that play to be a turnover.
You’re absolutely right, and they don’t. But they should. You even have to go back a bit because of the mechanics of a field goal try, giving even better field position than a standard failed 4th down try. And if the kick was attempted inside the 20 yard line the ball gets placed at the 20 after the change of possession.
It’s a matter of semantics and statistics I guess.
Giants score to take the lead thanks to 3 or 4 Denver penalities. Promptly miss another extra point to only be up 2. Denver zips down the field for the winning FG.