NHL: December 2011

Team Canada’s WJHC rosteris set (barring changes due to injuries to some players).

Three Habs prospects have made the team:

Brendan Gallagher, who has been an absolute stud this season with the Vancouver Giants.
Michaël Bournival, likely selected to help the power play apparently, from the Cataracts de Shawinigan
Nathan Beaulieu, a big shutdown defenceman expected to be good on the PK, from the Saint-John Sea Dogs.

Jarred Tinordi is on the roster for Team USA right now, and generally expected to make the team, though their final roster won’t be announced until Dec 22. Similarly, Daniel Pribyl is on the Czech WJHC preliminary roster, with final cuts announced by Dec 22.

Not yet drafted, 16-year old Mads Eller, younger brother to the Habs’ Lars Eller, is on the Danish team.

Lots of reasons to cheer, beyond the sheer fun of the WJHC itself! Can’t wait!

And the Habs are on a huge two game win streak! We only lost ONE player to injury (Moen) last game! Things are looking up! :smiley:

:smack:

Agreed. The world junior tournament is fabulous hockey to watch. Go Canada!

Slackers better not come home with a Silver again this year.

It was a tongue-in-cheek remark about how many injuries we’ve had. But I can’t disagree with anything you’ve said. If he has to sit out the season, he has to sit out the season. It’s not like we haven’t been down this road before – look back when Mario was so ill. It’s just so frightening to see.
How many of you are watching 24/7 tonight?

Another Starley Cup Champigon gets away with it…no suspensionfor McQuaid’s knee-on-knee collision with Foligno.

The deciding factor seems to pretty much be that Foligno was lucky enough to not get hurt, thereby once again absolving a Bruin from any responsibility whatsoever. Even most Bruin fans expected and agreed that a suspension was warranted.

What the hell kind of tainted crack is Shanahan smoking?!?

Let me guess, tomorrow Shanny comes back and says “seems people are angry about this, I’ll make an example out of the next guy”.

With Pronger out for the year (and perhaps his career) are the Flyers going to name a new captain this season?

Another coaching change as Montreal fires Jaques Martin.

Found this paper from a couple Profs at Simon Fraser University that discusses success rates and much, much more (warning: Links to PDF).

Strategies for Pulling the Goalie in Hockey

I’d summarize but, nodded off half a page in.

Spoiled in MN this month. Wild have moved to the top of the heap in the NHL (gun shy fans still aren’t sure if it is for realreal) and the Dogs and Gophers are one - two in the NCAA rankings. :slight_smile:

The advanced stats point to it not being sustainable, but there’s no timetable for regression to the mean so enjoy it while you can.

He really didn’t know how to use his players effectively. Playing Darche instead of Pacioretty on an extended 5-on-3 power-play? Nailing Louis Leblanc to the bench after the kid dared to score a goal? Blaming loses on the young players, who are all playing well and scoring while the veterans coast and slack off? Martin’s inability to adjust when the opponents changed tactics, his insistence on using “theoretical” lines rather than ones that were actually working and his refusal to use players in roles they are suited for (why did it take a reporter asking about it before using Erik Cole on the power play?) just added up to frustrating hockey. He had a good run, but couldn’t adapt.

I hope Cunneyworth can get this team going.

So, suspension for Eric Cole… yea or nay?

Oh geez…

If it were up to me, yes, it’s suspendable because intent and extent of injury shouldn’t matter, but by those standards McQuaid, Lucic, Marchand, Malone, Wolski, Bogosian, and many more players would have received suspensions for dangerous plays this year.

But Shanahan is a moron, and due to his 'arguments" and “justifications”, precedent set this year should indicate that Erik Cole not receive a suspension because Adam Larsson moved his head into a lower, more vulnerable position immediately before the hit and - if you listen to Shanahan on Malone - Cole could not have been expected in the time and space remaining to avoid the contact. Then again, the same logic applied to Pacioretty, and that got three games.

I expect Shanahan will hand out a suspension because Erik Cole doesn’t play for Boston. :rolleyes:
Here’s the thing that pisses me off: Larsson gets hit and rolls around on the ice looking like he’s dazed and confused, and then eventually gets up and skates to the bench and sits down, rather than immediately going to the locker room for evaluation. Between periods he was, apparently, evaluated and was allowed to return to the game. IF he comes down with a concussion now, the New Jersey Devils are as much to blame as Cole because they did not take appropriate steps to mitigate the potential injury. Larssonsaid he had neck pain…which were Crosby’s first symptoms, remember? I hope for his sake he isn’t concussed, but you’d think he and his team would give a damn about that possibility when he got hit, no?

I have the same beef with the Pittsburgh Penguins who couldn’t have taken more than 3 minutes to “evaluate” Kris Letang before sending him back out into a high-stimulus, high-intensity, highly physically exterting overtime period of hockey. Guess what? The man has a concussion.

There’s no bloody point in suspending Cole or Pacioretty or any of the players who make the hit in the first place if the teams don’t care enough about their players to protect them. It’s reasonable - based on what we know about concussions and how they heal - to assume that that extra ice time worsened Letang’s condition. If Larsson has concussion symptoms, it’s reasonable to assume that the delay in evaluating him and the fact that he played the rest of the game probably worsened those symptoms.

This random-ass retributionary supplementary discipline is a joke. The “quiet room” and evaluation program is a joke…no one even comes close to correctly following that rule. Bitching about suspensions after the fact does nothing to prevent concussions or other injury in the first place. I do want to see strict supplementary discipline, but I want it to be in conjunction with correct treatment for the potentially injured player.

Also, what about this?

The on-ice officials make a call.

If they say it’s just a 2 minute penalty, but Shanahan gives a severe suspension, isn’t that basically an admittance by Shanahan that the referees don’t know what they are doing?

If the on-ice officials give a severe penalty (5 and a game) and Shanny gives no further discipline, I guess you could argue that what the player received was “enough”. Or, Shanahan again disagrees with the on-ice calls, implying that the referees are incompetent.

So which is it? Is Shanny fucking up, or are all the refs fucking up? Are they both incompetent? There’s something wrong here, isn’t there? What’s the league going to do about it?

Actually, it wasn’t the Pens who sent him back out – he was examined by the Habs physician, and pronounced okay to go back out. Should he have sat out? Yeah. But would he have agreed? Most likely not. I’m not saying that there wasn’t some responsibility on our end. But it was Montreal’s doctor who examined him.

I didn’t know that; I figured most teams used their own doctors. Perhaps Dr. Mulder bears some responsibility as well. Thing is, we don’t know whether Letang was telling the truth (would you trust the other team’s staff?) or was just too hyped on adrenaline to truly feel how he was feeling, or was a Pens coach or trainer hovering, pressuring him to go back out? Perhaps the testing just isn’t good enough - certainly not in the span of 5 minutes. Dr. Mulder may have applied the correct protocol, but perhaps the protocol isn’t appropriate.

Either way you slice it, you have players getting hit in the head, going back out to play and then reporting concussions afterwards. That, to me, means that the concussion protocol does not work and the teams aren’t bitching about it. I think the teams need to have a greater responsibility towards their players and be much more proactive, because we are seeing a disturbing pattern emerge.

Do you agree?

Current Fenwick Power Rankings that, at a glance, show why teams like the Wild and Rangers are due for a fall.

Fenwick, to the uninitiated, is a team’s shots + missed shots (as opposed to CORSI, which is the same + blocked shots) versus their opponent’s same and represented as a percentage. A higher percentage means they’re getting more shots than they’re giving up and therefore controlling play more often.

Teams with a higher Fenwick that are struggling will eventually start to get the bounces, and vice versa, teams that are succeeding with a lower Fenwick will eventually have their luck start to run out.

For this article’s purposes it’s recorded when the score is close to help eliminate score effects–that is, a team down by several goals tends to press and get more shots than a team ahead by several goals.

Minnesota is currently 2nd to last in the League with a 43.86% Fenwick/close rating, suggesting that they’re benefiting from some combination of other unsustainable variables like strong goaltending, high shooting percentages or a high PP success rate. Also telling is their team PDO (Shooting Percentage + Save Percentage, which almost invariably trends toward 1000 the longer one tracks it) is a bit high at 1024.

The Rangers too are succeeding with a low Fenwick/close 46.91%, though their PDO is 1003.

On the flip side, Florida has the 10th best Fenwick/close and their 986 PDO suggests they may actually get better.

Yabbut…Scott Gomez has a high FENWICK… it can’t be that good a stat! :wink:

Milan Lucic out for one game and nothing for Cole. Colour me surprised… maybe Shanahan realized he was talking to the same player every damn week and that maybe he should do something? Lucic has talent for sure, but also a crazy mean streak and anger management problem; I’m convinced that if he’s not reigned in, someone is going to get seriously hurt. Likewise with Marchand, though to a lesser extent.

Game 2 of the Cunneyworth era: some retarded politicians and butthurt sovereignists are making a big deal out of the fact the Cunneyworth doesn’t speak French, as expected. No one gave a damn about him before Saturday morning, but now the entire province is - to listen to these idiots - on the brink of complete cultural collapse. Fact is, this is a hockey-mad province and most of the media/public are francophone, so it makes sense to have a bilingual coach, but I don’t think having Cunneyworth for a few months is a big deal. If he pulls off a miracle and gets us the Cup, that would make me much happier! It’s all about winning - it’s all about the Cup. Nothing else matters.

I’m not surprised Gomez is a good Fenwick player. I can’t say I’ve kept up with his career much since leaving NJ (partly due to his treasonous signing with the Rags), but he always excelled at getting the puck into the other team’s zone and helping keep it there. Since Fenwick just measures shots taken by each team, a guy like Gomez who can carry the puck into the zone, work a cycle and make smart passes usually maintains positive a Fenwick.

From what I understand, Mulder had the final say. I’m not blaming the Habs, just reporting what I read. And I’m guessing Letang himself had a lot to do with the decision “I feel fine, let me go back out!” But I absolutely agree with you.

At least the NHL seems to be addressing the issue better than the NFL – THAT’S a joke. (It’s not saying much, but considering the denials there, it’s depressing)

How sad is it that I"m beginning to hope Scott Gomez will return, because maybe that would help?

I don’t care that the Habs play again tonight (back-to-back Chicago and Winnipeg) I’d be bag-skating that team this morning and publicly calling out the so-called ‘veterans’ who can’t be bothered to show up ready to play. A few of them don’t deserve the wear the CH!

It’s probably a good thing I’m not a hockey coach, I’d kill my team!