I wasn’t sure whether to place this thread here or in Elections, so I tossed a coin, realized at the last second that I couldn’t see it because I am purblind, called myself an idiot, and spent five minutes searching for it before I said fuck it.
Anyway…
Any of y’all know personally any black persons who support Donald Trump as president? Been Carson doesn’t count unless you regularly see him at whatever Starbucks you and he both frequent. I am looking for someone who would recognize you on site and perhaps call out your name to say “Hey, DOperRealName, stop hogging the Splenda.”
I don’t know any, and I’ve been black nigh on 49,734 years, man and boy. But I don’t think such a thing is impossible. Nonetheless, I would like to hear about your experiences with same.
I do actually. He is a very successful pilot and financial advisor who is very active in a church. He says he met Trump back in the 90s and helped his career get going in some way. Being in the south he has been a frequent victim of racism but he sees that as a separate issue from his trump support. I can’t understand it at all. In other ways he is a smart, normal guy.
Maybe? I had a black colleague who had a Trump sign on display in his office, although he also had campaign items from most of the other candidates, with the exception of Hillary. I think it’s certainly possible that he voted for Trump, if only out of sheer misogyny (there were multiple, credible reports from students that he made sexist remarks, and he ended up being “encouraged” to take early retirement).
Also, I have lots and lots of black students, and I’d be surprised if there weren’t a Trump voter or two among them just by sheer numbers, but I wouldn’t be able to name anyone specific.
I have cousins who pass as white, but their momma is black. They are all Trump supporters–the red-hat wearing kind that post hateful, wrong-ass things on their Facebook pages.
It’s been a long time since I’ve seen that side of the family. I hope to keep it that way.
I had a work colleague who was so viscerally anti-Clinton that I’m sure he voted for Trump. He had a lot to say about the Clintons in the 90’s and the imprisonment of so many black folks. He was not wrong. He was also not emotionally dedicated to Trump, but thought his pro-corporate policies would benefit black folks economically.
What was more surprising to me was a Muslim colleague from India who was avidly pro-Trump. This guy was an extreme misogynist, to the point that he had gotten in trouble at work for yelling at and condescending to women. I nearly walked out because of him. He was also extremely authority-driven, just ignored the hierarchy if a woman landed in the slot. He honestly believed that all females should abase themselves before all males. Like, believed it deeply.
So yeah, he thought Trump would set American society on a “better” course, by removing the protections that allow women to "neglect"their families and “selfishly” insist upon a career. Sadly, from his perspective, he was not wrong either.
My neighborhood is ethnically diverse, and I like it that way. You’ll see very few MAGA hats around here.
Now, one place where I always feel safe bringing up politics is when I’m surrounded by people of color, who often seem surprised that a skinhead white guy would be begging them to get out and vote, but I’ve learned a lot by doing it.
Until the cashier at the supermarket replied, “Oh, I like Trump, he’s gonna…” followed by some explication founded on a misperception.
I work with a couple black Trump supporters. One of them even believed Kanye West when he said slavery was by choice even though he has ancestors were slaves.
Actually I don’t know any. Respect? I think who people vote for is a personal choice and since I’m not overly judgmental or self important how people exercise their right to vote or not vote is not my business.
On a personal level, I judge people based on how they treat me and others personally. I don’t respect any political judgment that would lead them to vote for Trump (or some other politicians I consider vile), but I can respect someone personally without necessarily respecting their political judgment.
I live in Santa Clara County, CA which is 2.4% black, so I don’t get to interact with that many black people. And there aren’t that many Trump supporters of any race, either. But I know lots and lots of Latinos, and more than a few of them are Trump supporters. Not a majority of the Latinos that I know, but some.
I know a handful of black people who say they don’t have a problem with Trump, but I can’t fully say I know if they voted for him or not. But I am a white woman who has spent a fair chunk of my life around mostly black people, so I get exposure to many ways of thinking, and I don’t think of black people as a monolith of group think. And I don’t want to be thought of that way myself. So I can respect other people’s opinions, and I can respect the person. I person does not have to agree with me to have my respect. Why would I use that as a yardstick to judge the measure of a person?
I don’t know any, but I suppose if you’re a rich black person, why not? He’ll keep your taxes low, and he can’t deport you if you’re an American citizen. It sort of makes sense if you’re able to overlook all his other negative qualities (hard for me to do personally, but 62 million people in this country thought otherwise).
In theory I could do that. But, in practice, political judgement and personal character and morality are more correlated than that. The problem is, if they like Trump, that tells me something about their character.
It seems to me that Trump is the dividing line on this, really. I have plenty of conservative friends. But no Trump-supporter friends. That doesn’t mean none of my friends voted for Trump (though I intentionally do not pry about that) but there is a difference between a Trump voter (who can be supporting their party or just be anti-Democrat) and a Trump supporter. A supporter is going to be advocating for Trump.
The one Trump supporter I had as a Facebook friend I got rid of. (We weren’t all that close, just knew each other from high school.) Not because of the Trump support, but because he spread liberal tears memes about protests, and just generally liked being mean to people.
As for the thread topic: nah. Just commenting because iiandyiiii brought up something that made me think. Plus he’s let me know before that some people think I think all conservatives are horrible people, which is stupid.
Yes my daughter’s husband. He’s in the Army and all his buddies are Trump fans too. They were all told he’s going to increase their pay and keep them safer than Hillary, who was only second to Obama when it comes to bowing to terrorists.
Oh, and no, I don’t respect him. I would like to, given my daughter is married to him. But I don’t.
That is actually a tough question because the ones I know/knew were more voting against the DNC in the last election than they were voting for Trump. And there were a lot of them compared to previous elections for POTUS. Since then most have drifted away as quickly as they could but there are still a few who switched and have now joined the usual ranks of African-American supporters of the Republican cause in general. You saw it a little in our last Primaries last week but you had to be at the polls and really looking for it.