No, old lady, DON'T invite the Jews to church!

I should have phrased my earlier post much, much better and made it clear that Judaic theology does not include the notion of a savior from sin in the sense that kanicbird, whom I take to be a fundamentalist Christian, believes the son of Mary to have been. I would have, but I was trying to reply to kanicbird without being insulting or snarky, which is obviously unnatural for me. (I’m a huge jackass. Ask anyone. I think there’s a web support group for people who hate me.)

Anyway, this page may be helpful.

deja vu

Yes, as a matter of fact, I do expect them to ignore me, and I’ll return the favor.

:smack:

For a second there I expected it to happen all over again.

More crass, or less - do you think - than if they’d said “We’re atheists”?

Mark 16:15 “And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.” KJV

Obviously you’ve never met the ‘right’ Christians!:slight_smile: Because this is something that I grew up with. Outreach ministry. Door to door witnessing, etc…

Note: Always tough for me due to my introverted tendencies. Never was much of a witnesser myself, but have always seen it going on around me.

Wouldn’t that include animals too?

Does a dog have a Buddha nature? Not if it’s right with g-d it don’t.:stuck_out_tongue:

“Preach the Gospel. Use words if necessary.” -St. Francis of Assisi.

Speaking as an atheist, good deeds impress me a lot more than sanctimonious preaching.

PRAISE JESUS! SAY HALLELUJAH! SAY AMEN!!!

One meaning of “creature” is “human being, as distinct from beast.” That this is the meaning in the quoted verse is clear. It is, after all, a translation from the Greek. (Or maybe Aramaic. I could scroll up and see exactly which book is being quoted, but I am too lazy.)

Equally crass. The crassness lies in the old lady’s assumption that a Jew (or an atheist) would feel ‘comfortable’ hearing that salvation lies only in Christ.

Or perhaps more so, in the sense that Christianity has traditionally portrayed the Jewish nation as ‘Christ killers’, and indeed taught that the Second Coming would not take place until the ‘Conversion of the Jews’.

I don’t know what the big deal is. I’ve been invited to Synagogue before, and even was the honorary Hanukkah Man in a friend’s household.

The honorary what?

As a (very not-Orthodox, but practicising) Jew, I don’t take offense when Christians invite me to church. I just say ‘no, thanks’. Or, in a few specific cases, I do come along – whilst making sure they understand I’m not a conversion target. (Some branches of) Christianity preach that missionary activity is important (or even necessary). If they persist, or start ranting about how I killed Christ blah blah blah, then I get tetchy.

I invite non-Jewish friends to synagogue all the time, just so they can see what’s what. They’re often curious about it, and I’m always answering questions about Judaism. Folks who’ve come with me to synagogue seem to enjoy the experience (and the food) and report learning new things.

I’m not seeing a very clear connection between the things you’re describing, andf the old lady mentioned by the OP.

I would so TOTALLY join that congregation.

Funny how words change. As a modern speaker I’d have taken creature to mean “unidentified\unspecified animal”.

For a second I thought the video was titled “Donkey Punch”. I was very intrigued and mortified.

I hid gifts around the house for the kids to find. And there was something with a dradle. Don’t remember how that went exactly…

Why, there is, but we’re not allowed…that is, we’re not supposed to…never mind.

Dradle dradle dradle
I made you out of clay
Dradle dradle dradle
With my dradle I will play

Or something like that?