No one cares about Pilates + pros/cons of method

First off, I’m the rare guy who’s done a lot of Pilates. I did it very regularly, one may say intensely, from August 2012 to August 2015, and I did bit last year (2016) when I had “bucks” to spend at Lifetime Fitness. I wanted to get back in shape but didn’t want to do a personal trainer (had done that in 2006, which was OK) and I didn’t want to do anything with intense cardio.

I was lucky: I started doing private lessons, and my teacher was really good for me. I switched to group classes after about a year and continued for another two years. I did get in pretty good shape, but I eventually quit due to reasons I will state in the “cons” section. One additional reason was that the studio I was in (and loved at first) fell apart, more or less. I’m still sad about that. I miss doing it and want to get back into it, though I think one session a week would be enough for me at this point. I used to do about three a week.

OK, let’s talk about the state of Pilates in 2017. Really, there’s not a lot to talk about, since people aren’t talking about Pilates. I have watched a bunch of bodybuilding videos, read a lot of articles about fitness, and my impression is that Pilates is a backwater these days. It’s not talked down, it’s not critiqued, it’s just invisible. It’s also just my impression, but in terms of fitness for women, a lot more people do yoga than Pilates. One simple reason is that one can get lower-cost yoga classes rather easily (they are “free” at Lifetime, for example), but Pilates always costs money and usually a substantial amount of it. Let’s take a look at the pros and cons of the method and discuss whether Pilates ought to be a fitness backwater these days.

Note that I am talking about Pilates on the reformer and other equipment and not mat Pilates. Contrary to what might be expected (from analogy with yoga?), founder Joseph Pilates used the reformer more or less from the start; it’s always been the basic way to do the system and not some upgrade from, or perversion of, mat practice.

Pros

• Each session is a full-body workout that works every muscle group and works on strength, flexibility, and balance.

• Teachers seem to have a lot of genuine knowledge of physiology and exercise. The Pilates way of looking at things is basically congruent with other rational exercises systems. E.g., your teacher will likely know what muscles the deadlift works.

• Surprisingly non-BS. It’s not like yoga at all, has no extraneous spiritual beliefs, etc. (I’m all for genuine spirituality, but I think yoga is an ungainly congeries of exercise and spiritual practice). Also, I have not found Pilates teachers to be dogmatic boosters of the system. (If anything, they don’t believe in it and practice it enough themselves, and it can tend to become a mere “product” in a studio that sells other forms of exercise.)

• Is the best ab exercise ever devised. No matter how much you think you’ve worked your abs, you haven’t even begun until you try Pilates. Your abs will be destroyed. Oh, and there are about 20 different exercises devised to destroy them.

• There are a ton of clever exercises of varying value. Really, it’s just a different world of exercise than anything else, and you can work muscle groups in some unique ways.

• Is a pleasant ritual. Pilates studios are nice, in general. They look and smell good. Classes are small and you tend to get to know people at your studio, at least somewhat, and on the whole it makes life feel more positive.

• Generally quite safe. This isn’t Crossfit. The chance of injury is non-zero, but on the whole it’s good.

Cons

• Too much ab work! This depends on the studio. I think my first studio really overdid it, whereas the teacher at Lifetime was more reasonable. To a point, it’s good; beyond that, it’s overkill.

• Too much fatigue. An issue in any exercise program is where genuine benefits end and simple fatigue begins. After Pilates, often I would feel wrung out like a rag doll and really tired for the rest of the day. If it was at night, it was too intense and I would have a hard time getting to sleep, despite the fatigue. Multiply this by three times a week, and it’s too much.

• Too much skill. Another issue in any exercise program is whether you are building muscle for everyday use or practicing skills that have no real use outside the exercise system itself. Pilates has a lot of specialized movements (i.e., those clever exercises), and sometimes their true usefulness is dubious.

• There are useless and even dangerous exercises. I think sideovers are complete bullshit. I really came to hate them. Side planks should be banned: they are too hard on the wrist, and I got a nasty ganglion cyst from doing one one time. The chair has a step you can use to develop your quads, among other things. The good news is that it is one of the best quad exercises ever. The bad news is that you are trying to balance even as you are burning your quads to ash. That means you can fall off, and in a group class it is hard for the teacher to pay attention to everyone’s fatigue level, and no one wants to give up. I fell off the chair once and got a nasty gash on my shin that required a bit of first aid.

• Expensive and hard to get into except through privates. It’s very hard for someone to jump into group classes, since Pilates is so specialized. So you end up having to take private lessons–which are great! But also quite pricey. Depending on the studio, group classes can end up a reasonable though palpable monthly expense. I was paying $199/month for 10 Pilates group classes–the trick was trying to use them all.

Cons specific to men.

• It’s all chicks. It really is. I can count on one finger or so the men who were in group classes who were not there with girlfriends or wives, and I can count on one hand the total number of men I encountered in group classes at all.

Why is this? Here is my speculation:

  • Pilates rewards flexibility. Although this is good for men, who are on the whole less flexible than women, it also tends to “reward” women with greater success in the system. Put simply, men inherently suck at it more, so they do it less, even though it would in some ways benefit them more. I think this factor also explains why many more women do yoga than men.

  • Snowball effect. Since only women do Pilates, it comes to seem as though it’s only for women–and only women do it.

And men also avoid Pilates because of the following con for men:

• Pilates doesn’t build muscle beyond a certain point. In actuality, it is a great muscle builder overall. After a year of doing only Pilates, I could practically bench my own weight (I could do 175 lbs. without a spot, could clearly do more, and weighed about 200 at the time). Nevertheless, some exercises start to seem easy after awhile, and Pilates has no way to “take you higher” without special attention from the teacher. There are also some fitness goals that simply aren’t included at all, such as being able to do pull-ups.

• Too much abs! In general, women do not get big muscles from exercise, even if they get stronger. Men do, in general. If you nuke your abs all the time Pilates-style, you will get bigger abs and a bigger gut. This is counteracted somewhat but not completely by an overall tightening of the core. I have found the additional core strength Pilates helps develop to be quite useful (try moving furniture after doing Pilates for a few years–totally different). But I also did develop a huge slab of meat in front.

Thus, if you end up without the participation of half the population, it’s no wonder that your system isn’t taken quite seriously. It’s a shame in a way. Pilates has a lot to offer as an exercise system, but I think it requires a new revolution, so to speak. It needs to address the needs of men better, lose some of the fancy but useless exercises, and integrate more effectively with the wider world of fitness.

Thoughts?

Also the reason why “it’s all chicks” is a con for men: The women were really nice, but it was hard being the only guy all the time. You just feel weird, and it grates on you. Also, it wasn’t an opportunity to meet single women (I was single): they were almost all married housewives.

The first thing I LOVED about Pilates was that when I left the studio, I felt like I’d just had a massage. I felt relaxed and yet energized at the same time. I didn’t even realize I’d had an ab workout until some hours later, then I really knew it. This applied to floor work as well as the Reformer–but I really loved the Reformer.

I’ve had good Pilates classes and bad ones. The good ones have the instructor walking around and making sure everyone is doing things in the excruciatingly correct way. The bad ones, they just do their thing at the front of the class and assume everyone is doing what they can. I guess this works for yoga (I don’t actually know, it was how the only yoga class I ever did was run) but in Pilates you do have to do it right. Angle of head, angle of neck, all that.

The bad class was, however, free with membership at the Y. Downside here, it is expensive.

Aside from the floor exercise classes, I don’t know how they do group classes because the places I’ve gone have not had many copies of the machines. I’ve looked in the windows of one place that seems to have lots of machines, but these are not the machines I recognize.

Yep, classes can definitely make you feel good.

I would say I’ve had high-quality classes. That does remind me of another downside, for me at least: Pilates kindof messed up my neck. It happened cumulatively over time, but the left side of my neck is stiffer now because of the way I held it during the many exercises that require the neck to be flexed and help up while one is in motion. I wasn’t necessarily doing anything “wrong” that a teacher could notice.

The studio I would go to would have five reformers in a room and in some rooms a single “Cadillac” beyond those. Chairs would be between the reformers.

Well, this post has received some views but only one response… so I guess people vaguely care about Pilates?!

What stood out to me about your post is that you think “no one” cares about Pilates because it’s harder for men than for women. As a woman, I wasn’t sure I was capable of giving a valid response.

The same distinction between good and bad instructors holds for yoga, btw. Yoga should be difficult, especially for beginners. Beginners, honestly, ought to feel nauseous or they aren’t doing it right.

I really liked Pilates and hoped to get back into it. I stopped when I was pregnant for the second time and ended up on bed rest.

I found it a great way to add strength in important areas for me. I have a bad back and the core strengthening was awesome. I ended up standing taller after doing Pilates for several months. I enjoyed the classes too. I felt like I was getting stronger without feeling like it was work that I dreaded. I also balanced the Pilates with some weight training on opposite days.

I also liked that it was low impact.

There were men in my classes, so it may just depend on where you are.

I didn’t say that. I started off saying that Pilates isn’t talked about much online (unless you’re googling specifically for Pilates, I will add here). And although barely any men do Pilates, not that many women, in absolute numbers, do it either. It’s quite niche, and I can’t tell whether it’s trending up or down at this point. There certainly isn’t a Pilates craze going on.

That depends on what the goals of yoga are, and I’m not sure even yoga instructors know the answer to that, really. As it exists in the US, it’s not a traditional practice, and are its exact effects as exercise really even considered beyond, “Downward dog is said to do this, and so it does this”? I’m not saying this to directly challenge you, but why should yoga make someone nauseous? Is there a benefit to feeling that way? That sounds like Crossfit-style bravado to me.

Yes, that’s a big benefit that I forgot, thanks!

But were they there with women?

I certainly had men in my fitness classes in the studio. I don’t doubt that geography could influence their presence in the reformer classes, as you suggest.

No, I don’t think that they were there with partners. It wasn’t an even split, maybe 2/3 women to 1/3 men? The other men that I have known who did it took private lessons.

Oh, OK, I was referring to group classes. I did know a few more men in private lessons.

I tried mat Pilates when I was working at Best Buy HQ; the gym there had free mat classes and I enjoyed it, although they totally kicked my ass. I was taking martial arts classes like a crazy person then and probably in the best shape of my life, and I just got beat up by the class; I wanted to go to a karate class so I could catch a breather every once in a while. I was also the only guy in the class, but that wasn’t a problem.

My current gym, Lifetime, has the reformers (and only the reformers–no mat classes) for $25-30 a session. I think the reason they don’t have mat classes is because they think “hey, we paid for these, if we have free mat classes, nobody will use the reformers.” Sadly, every time I walk past the Pilates studio, it’s empty except for a rather forlorn teacher dusting off the equipment… I’m thinking of finding another Lifetime in my area that has mat classes, but most of them are too far away.

Yeah, my studio did offer mat classes but put them in the fitness category. My membership also came with 2 fitness classes per month, but I would usually do a class called mat springboard instead. So I don’t have a huge understanding of mat Pilates but have done some things.

Another reason is that the teacher would probably have to be certified as a Pilates teacher and would probably want to be doing the reformer classes, as that’s mainly what Pilates is (and was from the beginning). Just to give one example, the reformer is used like a leg press to exercise the legs every session, and there is no direct equivalent on the mat.

My only qualm about mat pilates is the same as for yoga: it’s hard to tell what is genuinely improving strength, flexibility, and balance, and what is building specialized skills and generating fatigue. I did yoga classes at the Pilates studio too. A lot of stuff just felt like stress positions, almost like torture. My guess is that if one really scientifically studied the benefits of Downward Dog, it would turn out to be total horseshit.

I’ll give a specific example from mat that also applies to reformer: the “tabletop” position, in which you are on your back with your hands up, your thighs pointing straight up, and your legs bent so that your shins are at a 90 degree angle with your thighs. This burns the hip flexors like nobody’s business. But, in reality, there is no need to exercise the hip flexors at all beyond what happens naturally during other exercises. The role of the hip flexors is to lift the legs up during walking or running. They are inherently weak muscles that need only to handle the weight of the legs. This is not to say that the tabletop position has no other benefits that make this burn worth it, but thinking that one is really accomplishing something because of that burn itself is incorrect. It’s just pain without substantial benefit.

The instructor at mine seems to be doing OK business, but I’m sure that varies by location.

I was talking about group classes too. I realize I lumped two thoughts together. I meant in my group classes, it was 2/3rds women, 1/3rds men. Outside of my group classes, I know other men who do Pilates, but they do private classes. Some of them do it because their partners do it. Some of them don’t. About an even split now that I think about it.

I have never done private lessons. Sorry for the confusion.

Not a prob! That’s a nice proportion of men. What location are we talking about?

Silicon Valley.

Also, Willamette Valley, Oregon

And here’s another reason I preferred Pilates.

Right! I wanted something that wouldn’t make me feel like shit.

I loved Pilates, and did it throughout my pregnancy - weird moment when the doctor compliments your abs *during your c-section. * It tends to be really expensive. Too bad.