Well, apart from himself and possibly Eva Braun, that is, but I doubt those are the type of killings the OP is wondering about.
Manson was actually something of a musician himself. The Beach Boys recorded an altered version of one of his songs, the writing of which was credited to Dennis Wilson. Manson was highly pissed and, IIRC, even threatened to shoot Dennis for having taken credit for it. Cite
Alice Sheldon, who wrote science fiction as James Tiptree, Jr., shot her husband and herself to spare his suffering further when he was 84. It was certainly calculated.
But a writer is not an poet, artist, or composer. So that doesn’t disprove the claim any more than an actor or photographer does.
I’m surprised to hear you say that. I certainly regard writers as artists (at least the kind who write stories, novels, screen plays, etc., as opposed to technical writing and so forth.) . Acting and certain kinds of photography are art as well.
It’s a rather silly statement – there’s so much ‘wiggle room’ that it’s pretty meaningless.
First is Sage Rat’s note of the small sample fallacy. Even if you said “No Noble Prize winner …” you’d probably have to modify it to “No Noble Prize winning scientist …” to exclude the Peace Prize ones, some of whom are questionable.
But beyond that, it would soon involve ‘no true Scotsman’ fallacy.
For example, I could say the Emperor Nero was a poet, but also killed a whole lot of people.
You could argue that he wasn’t really a poet.
I could point out that he won some ancient poetry competitions.
You could argue those competitions were fixed so that he would win.
And so forth…
If the broad definition of “artist” was the one intended, then one wouldn’t need to include the words “poet” or “composer.” Because of this, I assume that “artist” in the OP refers to visual artists (painters and sculptors) only, and excludes writers, actors, etc. Likewise, “composer” excludes singers or musicians who do not compose their own works.
The charge was second-degree murder and he was acquitted, but at least worth noting that Carl Andre, the minimalist sculptor, was tried in connection with the death of his wife.
Well, he was never charged with or convicted of directly killing anyone. But (as Googling shows) a number of people - including Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys - said that he did, and others heard him claim to have done so.
Martin Gardner’s review of two Colin Wilson articles in The Oxford Companion to the Mind:
Mr. Wilson fires back…but Mr. Gardner gets the last word:
“The former boy wonder, tall and handsome in his turtleneck sweater, has now decayed into one of those amiable eccentrics for which the land of Conan Doyle is noted. They prowl comically about the lunatic fringes of science, looking for ever more sensational wonders and scribbling ever more boring books about them for shameless publishers to feed to hungry readers as long as the boom in occultism lasts.”
Its part of the authors contention that the ‘left brain’ and ‘right brain’ are complementary but need to be balanced correctly to function as intended and much of the criminal acts in history are because people have been letting the logical left-brain take control. I could post a scan of the page and link to it from imgur if that’s allowed though I’m not sure how much more enlightening it would be.
Its one of the weaker aspects of the book in my opinion but then again it was written in the late 1970’s, one other eye-brow raising part from a modern perspective is that the author casually assumes that the person reading his book is a man and not just in the use of pronouns.
The OP said committed not convicted.
Manson may have committed murder before the Sharon Tate murder. I can’t cite, but I recall a doc.show about it. And Spector; everyone knows he shot the chick in the face.
The assertion is certainly wrong as many have stated, but it’s a nice example of a “no true Scotsman” proposition: “He wasn’t REALLY an artist…she didn’t REALLY calculate the murder…” and so on.
Nobody has come up with a true counterexample. Carlo Gesualdo killed his wife and her lover when he found them in flagrante. Caravaggio was in a brawl. Gu Cheng killed two decades after the book came out. Other examples were not poets, artists, or composers.
I have trouble believing that the claim is true, especially since I’m sure Wilson couldn’t be familiar with all the world’s cultures. But he stated it narrowly and sensibly.
What’s happened since is the usual thread drift, in which people totally ignore the OP and post anything that has some words in common. That’s not argument; it’s bar trivia.
I share with Sage Rat the feeling that when it comes down to it, the vast majority of killings is not the classic “premeditation, malice aforethought and special circumstances” that we think of when we say Murder One. Heck, I would not be surprised if *a lot *of the actual prosecutions for Murder One in a place like the USA are only at that degree due to a statutory provision for “special circumstance” to mandatorily ratchet up the charge (killing a Law Enforcement Officer; Terrorist threat; use of poisons; Felony Murder Rule; ambush; etc).
So it turns out that creative artists who murder, like the majority of those people who do murder, do so “in the heat” or while “not in their sound mind”, rather than plotting it in cold blood. That’s not news and provides me little useful information. ISTM that would be about as significant as saying it’s unknown for a fine auteur to rob the First National Bank at gunpoint … when hardly *anyone *ever robs the First National Bank at gunpoint. Tells me jack about how having a creative artist’s brain affects your criminal inclinations.