"No u-turns between 9pm and 3am" - eh ?

So the town next to me has signs on the intersections that ban u-turns AT NIGHT (between 9pm and 3am in fact). I have been racking my brains since I saw them to try and work out the reasoning behind this, to no avail.

Obviously I see the point of banning u-turns during rush hour, but why at night ? Its by no means a big night life location. Its a quiet SF Bay Area suburb with maybe one bar, and if completely dead at night (though isn’t a residential area, the part of the road that has the signs is a two-lane main street going through a commercial district with shops and restaurants.

Any ideas ?

Was it ever a “cruising” location? Kids in cars drving up and down the strip at night?

Two ideas leap to mind.
First it is an anti-cruising ordnance. Designed to keep them damn kids and their cars away from there (and off my lawn damn it!)
The second would be part of an anti prostitution ordnance. Same reasoning as above, give the police an excuse to bust a John making a U-turn to pick up a girl.

Other than that, I got nothing.

I like how you ‘figured out’ the whole John thing and prostitution thing there, Rick.

The cruising argument makes very vague sense, the “powers that be” in that town do seem to live somewhat in fear of the more “ethnic” residents of nearby less affluent suburbs. Though I can’t see how no doing removing the power to d u-turns is going stop anyone (I mean the last I heard the ability to go round the block was not something that is learned at age 30).

Knowing bureaucrats as I do, is it possible they meant “between 9am and 3pm” and have not yet realized the signs are wrong?

Perhaps it was deemed unsafe visibility at night. Who knows why it doesnt say night. Perhaps the court got sick of people arguing that 8pm isnt night.

Wouldn’t a visibility issue start before 9pm and end after 3am?

Thats unfair!

Rick was just making sure his spark plugs were working right when he made that u turn :slight_smile:

Definitely anti-cruising.

I lived in Concord back in the 80s when cruising was just becoming a nuisance issue. The folks in Pleasant Hill thought the other towns were just chasing kids off their proverbial lawns, and invited them all over to cruise Pleasant Hill, thinking the extra traffic would be good for business.

IIRC, there was just one single cruise night of total gridlock on Contra Costa Blvd. before the city council had an emergency meeting and enacted and anti-cruising ordinance. The no-U-turn-at-night signs were they main tool they used to control the traffic & direct it on its way.

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

I’ve actually seen (though they’re too far away for me to go take a picture of and post) signs that say “No Cruising Zone - No U-Turns between 8pm and 3 am”.

Castro Valley, huh? I’ve always guessed anti-cruising, but haven’t heard any definite answers.

Wait… cruising is considered bad? Did not know that, every couple on moths I like to just drive around at night and listen to music (quiet enough so as not to disturb anyone, of course) when it’s past safe to take walks. I had no idea I was doing something wrong (or “wrong”). I can’t see why this is frowned upon, especially at 2AM (and in a commercial district at that). It’s not like people are revving their engines with their brights on near people’s houses.

Or does cruising denote something else that I’m missing? Wikipedia isn’t too clear on this.

Driving around is fine. Cruising is usually driving up and down the same stretch of road over and over, usually done by many teenagers at once.

The anti-cruising laws I have heard of ban a car from passing a spot more than around 3 times an hour.

Imagine a couple of thousand cars converging on the main street of one town from miles around, driving up & down the street over & over at about 5 mph tops, where the whole idea is to see & be seen in a big social gathering on the street. Completely blocks any other local traffic, impedes emergency vehicle access. And there were lots of folks for whom that was their main entertainment, every single weekend. That was Cruising, in its heyday.

Heck, I live where U-turns are banned in the whole country except at designated places. It is pretty cool that there are U-turn lanes.

When i lived in Vancouver in the 1990s they had anti-cruising rules in effect on one of the main drags, Robson Street.

It wasn’t a “No U-Turn” law, because there were no u-turns allowed on that street anyway. What they had instead were signs disallowing right turns at certain intersections. The aim was to stop people going around the block and cruising down the same few blocks of Robson over and over again.

I think the rules were only in effect on Friday and Saturday nights.