So, if there is a concert, or a game, and lots of people are crossing the street to get to it, blocking traffic, they are violating your rights, and can be run down at will? Or is it just if it is for a protest that you don’t support?
Oh Jesus those snow flakes.
And fuck them. Protest all you want, but your pet cause doesn’t give you the right to shut down roads when you feel like it. It’s too bad they arrested the driver instead of the protesters vandalizing his car.
To paraphrase…
RTFirefly: blocking protestors are an inconvenience, nothing more.
Pleonast: blocking protestors are sometimes violating others’ right to travel.
Ravenman, Kimstu, k9bfriender: since they’re violating rights, we’re allowed to assault them.
You’ll have to explain what you’re talking about better because I don’t see any connection between my words and what you’re saying.
The people were walking slowly across the street not standing still . What I find troubling is the police didn’t seem to be trying to prevent cars from driving through the protesters .
I watched the video and it didn’t look like he was TRYING to run people over. Just another white, male butthead that wasn’t going to have brown people tell him he couldn’t go thru there. The whole blowing his horn and inching forward even tho he could clearly see the pedestrians were using the walkway was the pinnacle of his stupidity.
The police Lt. even said in the article he didn’t think the guy was trying to hit people.
I wonder if he’ll try to claim against the people there for the damage to his car?
I wonder if your tune would have the same lyrics if it was a brown woman driving thru a white mans protest against jobs lost to equal opportunity employment.
In that case the cops should beat the black woman, toss her in jail, and kiss the white guys’ boo boos. Obviously.
I watched the video and immediately knew it had to be a blue state. In Trumpia, the cops would have been cheering for the motorist.
While the driver of the car was definitely in the wrong, I take issue with the characterization that they were trying to hurt anyone. They were simply trying to get past the protestors (many of whom were throwing objects at the car and striking it with other objects, in addition to those who jumped on the car). I can sympathize with someone getting spooked at a large group of protestors aggressively preventing them from driving away. Again, the driver should not have “plowed” thru the crowd. But even so, I think a fair characterization of the driver’s actions is warranted.
I can think of numerous times, then, that my rights have been violated. Just within the past few years, my planned routes have been blocked by a parade in Alexandria, a 10K run in D.C., and a policeman’s funeral procession in Prince George’s County. In each case, they were the devil to get around. If I’d only known I had rights! I would have insisted on my rights being recognized (well OK, not in the instance of the policeman’s funeral, since there were hundreds of police cars in the cortege, and they wouldn’t have been eager to enforce my rights) and done my best to worm my way through whenever there was a clear foot or two in front of my car.
Say, didn’t they always tell us that driving was a privilege, not a right? And I can’t find anything about a ‘right to drive’ in the Constitution. Maybe I’m just not looking in the right place. 
And I take issue with the characterization that he wasn’t. What you just described was him trying to hurt people. He is in a car. Pushing them to get by is an action that would reasonably hurt them. Therefore, the fact that he chose to commit that act means he was trying to hurt them.
If I wave around a gun and shoot around people, and someone gets shot, I can’t claim I was not trying to hurt them just because I wasn’t aiming at them. My choice to shoot randomly into the crowd means I wanted them hurt.
You can’t commit an action and say you weren’t trying to hurt people when you are aware that the results of that action will likely be people who are hurt.
Either he intended to hurt them, or he is mentally unstable and didn’t realize the obvious consequence of his actions. The whole reason you can’t drive through crowds is because it will hurt people.
While you are at it, look for the right to walk/stand in the middle of the road.
And this is why we are fighting to get our country back. There is nothing about this that isn’t absolutely awful.
Snowflake is a term made up by bullies to ignore the concerns of people other than them. To believe in it shows a fundamental lack of empathy.
And now you’re denying the right to use a crosswalk because it halts traffic. You say they can protest, but you want them to be arrested for crossing a street. You don’t even acknowledge that a pedestrian always has the right of way, and that the cops themselves were letting them through.
And then you don’t care about the guy committing an assault on these people and not caring who he hurt, but want them to be arrested. So you want people to be able to try and run over protesters.
This is the authoritarianism we see on the Right. And it is why the alt-right isn’t really that big a change. The Right is largely just people who don’t get the difference between right and wrong. Why not throw in racism and Nazism into the mix? It checks all your boxes.
I long for the days of the Right that was moral. But I see so little of it anymore. The divide is largely the fault of one side, because one side has gotten more and more depraved. There is no way my conservative grandpa would have defended the guy in the car.
Of course there isn’t. If you know your action will reasonably hurt someone and you choose to perform that action, you intend to hurt them. Otherwise the fact that you could hurt them would stop you from performing the act.
The intent is the same. You intend to hurt them. Unless you have some reason that makes it worth it to hurt them, you have committed the same horrible act.
Imagine if it were otherwise. Everyone would argue that they didn’t intend to hurt the other person. “Yes, officer. I shot a gun at him, but I intended for it to miss!” Bullshit.
You drive the car into them, you intended them to get hurt. This guy decided it was worth it so he could get through.
This was assault with a deadly weapon. He chose to commit the assault to try and get by, but he still committed the assault. In fact, the whole idea is that his threat would make them move out of the way, lest they be hurt.
Who is “we” and who are you trying to take it back from? If you mean the people who call other people “special snowflakes”, I think that you’ll find that this is quite possibly the most petty-whiner-tolerant generation that has existed since Columbus Sailed the Ocean Blue. You think the people crossing oceans, exploring new lands, genociding natives, pooping in holes and using squirrels for toilet paper, fighting wars every 1.7 seconds, dying from paper cuts, etc. were compassionate and accommodating to people who don’t like the word used to describe them or think that you are wearing the wrong clothing? Or for most of history, would those people be ignored, scoffed at, told to “suck it up, buttercup”, or possibly tarred and feathered?
No, toughness was the standard for most of history, it is this new “to whine is to be right, always” attitude that is new. you can’t “take back” something because the whiners are the ones who have taken it.
Driving a car through a crowd hurts people. This guy was trying to drive a car through a crowd. Therefore, this guy was trying to hurt people.
In a thread about a person who assaulted people because they were inconveniencing someone, you stepped up and said that the protestors were violating the traveller’s rights. That seems like a defense of the travelers actions as well. Apologies that I misunderstood, but it did seem as though defending the traveler’s actions was what you were doing.
“car pushing through a line of demonstrators marching in a crosswalk”
Please tell me where in there it gives a right to a car to drive into an occupied crosswalk.
No, snowflake is a term for people that think they are super important and gosh darn it the world should just revolve around them. Protesting and no one cares? Just be obnoxious and force them to pay attention to you because you’re special and everyone else needs to pay attention to you. Need to fake some injuries to make an incident look worse? Why just go to the hospital and tell them all about it. Because our hospitals definitely aren’t over capacity and doctors love to waste their time.
FWIW, I agree that this guy was an asshole for moving forward through the crowd in his car, but that someone who “inched forward” (from the OP) is not trying to injure people; even the police don’t think so. There are, unfortunately, any number of examples of people using their cars as weapons to hit crowds if anyone is really confused about the difference.