No, your magical Christ nail DIDN'T win WWII for us

So there’s this asshole in my intro to world religions class. Actually, there are quite a few, as many people take the class in fallacies in other religions and thereby affirm their own. But there is one in particular, and somehow I get put in his discussion group for today’s topic. He, of course, is more interested in talking about how he wants to take the wine tasting class “Oh man you can get wasted in school! Score!” or some history of war class “It’ll be sweet with explosions and shit”

While on the topic of WWII, he tells his little cronies about this program he apparently saw on the history channel about the holy spear. “Yeah, anyone who has it is unstoppable in war. Hitler had it, and he was about to win the war, but we sent some commandos to go steal it, and three days later, Hitler was dead.”

This prick constantly scoffs at the other religions we study, “Animals and nature has spirits? That’s so gay.” But he finds nothing wrong with believeing that some mystical pig sticker was what single handedly swung the course of the war.

I’m considering whether my education is in the best of hands if my university is allowing this idiot to graduate with a degree at the end of this semester.

He apparently mistook the movie, Constantine, for a documentary. I can guarantee that he saw no such thing on the History Channel. You should mock him and tell him how stupid he is.

Done and done. And I do mean done.

I don’t know. There was a History Channel program called “Hitler and the Occult” that apparently mentioned the Spear of Longinus.

Likewise, the sequel to Wolfenstein 3d was not based on a true story. Although I think there might have been a guy named Hitler running around Germany the time the game is supposed to take place.

Silly SOD!

I did. I think it was just this past weekend. And they did tell of the lore that any army that posessed it was unstoppable. But they stressed that it was lore, not fact. And there’s tons of lore surrounding the thing. I think this moron was just cherry-picking the tidbits that he wanted to believe.

Unfortunately, the History Channel is showing lots of stuff that is of questionable historical accuracy. I wouldn’t be so fast with that guarantee.

From their site.
Tomorrow you can watch “UFO Files”
Thursday you can get “Countdown to Armageddon”, the description includes this line “Are these simply natural disasters <snip> or are these threats terrifying prophesies from the Bible…”

Check out their store. The number of videos listed under “Religion and Spirituality” is rather large.

I stand corrected on the History Channel. had no idea it had degenerated to such an extent,

The “Spear of Destiny” was a plot device in Roy Thomas’s 1980s comic-book series All-Star Squadron, set during WW2. Hitler possessed it and thus was able (in conjunction with the Holy Grail, in the possession of the Japanese) to keep the most powerful of the superheroes (Superman, Wonder Woman, the Spectre, Green Lantern, etc.) out of Axis territory, thus explaining why they didn’t wrap up the war in about twenty minutes.

But your associate doesn’t seem literate enough to handle comic books.

There was a whole segment about the spear. Supposedly the spear that poked Christ. Except the spear was from hundreds of years later, based on metalurgy. So was sheath that held the spear, and the wire that held the spear together. But there was a piece of an iron nail embedded in the center of the spear that looked like it could have been from the 1st century or so. That was the provenance.

The Spear of Longinus was also the Maguffin in James Herbert’s horror novel, called The Apear.

Actually that show wasn’t too bad. It contained a healthy amount of skepticism. But it was presented in such a way that non-critical thinkers could come away from it with just about any weird conclusions they wanted to.

Silly people, everyone knows it all hinged on who could get and keep the Ark. Thank goodness Indie was on our side. :smiley:

Yes, since the nail could have been from around that time it clearly must be from the true cross. I neglected to mention that part, but that’s where the ‘nail’ in the title comes from.

Oh, tdn, what are you trying to do, scare me? You sound like my mother. We’ve known each other for a long time. I don’t believe in magic, a lot of superstitious hocus pocus. I’m going after a find of incredible historical significance, you’re talking about the boogie man. Besides, you know what a cautious fellow I am. ::tosses loaded gun across the room, coils bullwhip, and dips fedora so only his glaring eyes can be seen between the overhanging brim and the manly two-day stubble on chin.::

I bet they’ve got that spear in a very safe place, with top men working on it. Top Men.

Oddly, it hasn’t allowed us to prevail in successive conflicts. How does your classmate explain that?

Stranger

Of course, everyone knows that the Spear of Longinus should be in orbit right about a decade from now.

Just think how many he would have sold if he had named it The Spear :slight_smile: .

Uh, guys, I hate to break it to you, but “Spear of Longinus” is one of those joke names. You know, like “Biggus Dickus”. :wink:

Isn’t that spear the one that the guy was trying to find all the parts to int the execrable USA Network presentation of The Librarian: Quest for the Spear.?