I can’t find the main discussion thread for this movie if there was one. I only found one about the commercials and another one about the recent Bible movies.
Anyway, did anyone else see the movie? I did and I actually thought it was pretty good. I was surprised that Noah is pretty much an antagonist for a big part of the movie and the appearance of Watchers surprised me as well.
I thought it was a bit silly that one of the non-Noah-family people got on board, but it played out all right.
What did you all think? I thought Emma Watson pretty much stole the movie. She was great and I was very impressed with her acting.
Yeah, it was pretty good and I too was surprised to find that Noah was both protagonist and antagonist throughout the film.
Were the “watchers” based upon the Bible? Don’t recall the ark being built by big stone creatures, but it’s been a while since I’ve read the source material…
Saw it, enjoyed it.
Thought the Watchers were somewhat silly. Thanks Mahaloth for the link to the nephilim - finally the Watchers make some sort of sense.
REALLY liked Russell Crowe’s portrayal of a good man going on a good mission, to becoming a crazed fundie, and back to a good man again.
I did think the whole “save the environment” theme was a bit heavy-handed.
Chattaway is slicing Gnosticism and Kabbalah differently than Mattson, but is hardly refuting the idea.
I haven’t seen the movie, but in reading the discussion on both sides, I find little material overlapping with the biblical account–basic names, there was an ark and a flood, etc. No mention of Noah’s years of preaching repentance, rather trying to KILL ALL HUMANZ! etc.
Saw it, thought it was dreadful. Mainly in the production values. So cheap and third-rate. Everything looked totally fake. And I only went for the special effects. The story was interminable. Ugh.
I’m not trying to threadshit, the discussion is interesting. I’m very pleased you all saw a much better movie than me.
Basically some of what is claimed to be “Kabbalah” is Biblical:
In addition, there is this weird conflation of Kabbalah and Gnosticism by Mattson (calling it Jewish Gnosticism ignores what Gnosticism really is - Scholem may have deemed it such, but that has been mostly rejected). Though Mattson says he distinguished it, he slides from one back to the other very easily.
Also:
Also, let’s be somewhat clear. Mattson is a conservative evangelical. If you look at his other journal posts, you’ll see anti-liberalism posts, anti-secularism posts, etc. Conservatives were somewhat upset at Aronofsky for going “off book” and adding things to Noah (it’s like 4 chapters in the Bible - if you didn’t add things, it’d be a half hour tale). Perhaps we should give Mattson the benefit of the doubt, but it seems to me, he’s trying to bring down the movie because it departs from the Biblical narrative exactly.
I rented it , and turned it off about two thirds of the movie, found it too preachy. The scene with the watchers reminded me of the white tower battle in Lotr and from there I found the movie dragging
The Watchers kept making me think of Transformers, but otherwise I really liked the movie, found it entertaining, and am amused by the critics who say it’s “too Biblical” or “not Biblical enough.”
I’m 35 minutes into the movie and I am ready to turn it of. Do people really believe in this?
I mean, it’s not even good as fiction, which is why I decided to watch it. I thought maybe, it could be an entertaining fiction, but wow. I’m exhausted already. I don’t think I can handle two hours of this.
What was Russell Crowe thinking signing up for this crap. And how did it ever get a 6.0 IMDb rating?
Don’t get it, but then I am an atheist. I guess you have to have faith to find this entertaining.