He’s more evil than Trump, really. Trump is the Loud Guy In The Bar who doesn’t know diddly-squat, but thinks he has the answer to everything - only with money and now the Presidency. He’s evil, but is too stupid half the time to know why what he’s saying is total bullshit.
Kelly isn’t stupid, and has to know why this line is bullshit. But he’s going with it anyway. He’s basically what Trump would be if Trump had smarts and had his shit together as a villain.
I don’t know, I recall people questioning invading Iraq. Just sadly not congress. I thought if anything Iran was far more likely to be involved in supporting terrorism vs the US.
I thought we should have concentrated on Afghanistan and used that to send the message we needed to send.
I’m with RTFirefly on this one. I can’t think of any Republican who I think of as being “forced” to support the invasion of Iraq. Are you referring to Powell? Are you implying that there were many Republicans who were against the war but had their arms twisted into supporting it? And who were those Republicans, you think?
This isn’t how I see Kelly. I knew guys like him (I think, anyway) when I was in the Navy – IMO, he’s essentially a fundamentalist American nationalist – a true believer in the GIs/apple pie/baseball type of American mythology. That Mayberry was a real and true representation of good old fashioned American traditional values, rather than a revisionist myth that whitewashed so much of the injustice of the time represented. Such beliefs are so fundamental to his core identity that, IMO, he’s no more likely to change than a 65 year old jihadist.
This is not good, but not unexpected. Voters voted for an authoritarian and I’d say there’s a 50/50 chance this country’s going to end up with one.
I’ve been saying it:
There will be a war with North Korea.
This will give the WH the ability to impose a security state.
The investigations will be shut down.
There will be emergency legislation against sedition.
Would you be happier with “coerced” or “boxed into politically with the situation Cheney had created” or “lied into”, then? Does it really make a fucking difference to you? :rolleyes:
I used a short word instead of a long phrase. It’s pretty common in this language.
I wouldn’t object to “lied to.” So who was coerced?
And why is it that you’re shitting your pants about being called out on a stupid statement that you made?
ETA: And now I see you’re continuing to edit your statement. Moving the goalposts? Trying to save face? I leave it to the reader to figure out.
You’re going beyond ridiculous now. Get back to the discussion, if you can.
As for “shitting pants”, please look at who is offended by others’ use of short but descriptive words. Now maybe you and RTF can go help change each other’s diapers. Sheesh. :rolleyes:
Christ, you’re the lefty who talks like Trump. You make up some bullshit, get called on it, and then you go on the attack, telling people what they should be talking about. Throw a few more rolleyes in there, or take to your Twitter feed – then you will really have shown us who the boss is.
I “got called” on nothing; I took the time to explain it to you since you were having comprehension difficulties, and obviously you still are to the point where any further attempts would be futile.
Now quit threadshitting as well as pantshitting, please.
You forgot to put [JuniorModHatOn] at the beginning of your post.
It shows that he needs to apologise so much that he has an text expander for “I am sorry”. Probably Canadian.
“I am sorry” is bad Canadian grammar. The proper form is “Sorry” without any further qualification.
Having read the background, I think “physician heal thyself” is apropos. Or perhaps (with proper name subsitution) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY5nlLsU4f8
That said, returning to the thread: Kelly (and for that matter, some of the other Republicans like Flake) have been getting kudos from being ‘responsible’ or for denouncing or ‘controlling’ Trump. But it doesn’t mean that they are any less conservative or ‘reactionary’ than they were before. Kelly is being Kelly, folks; he hasn’t had an Ebenezer Scrooge moment.
Updating this thread Kelly is departing before the end of the year (presumably fired):
I feel worse for the seals in Hawaii that are getting eels stuck in their noses.
I feel sorry for the eels.