From what I’ve seen of Prager, he appears to be a Jew who believes that America should be a white Christian ethnostate, so I’m not sure I’d trust him to tell me what the symbols on a dreidel mean.
A great miracle didn’t happen here.
I vaguely know who this waste of humanity is, I watched part of one of his videos by accident before I knew who he was.
I am in no way shape or form jewish, but a local church did a re-enactment of the Passover Seder one year, as part of a history lesson on the roots of Christianity. It was really fascinating to attend. The audience was led in participating by the Father of the Family acting out the Seder on stage. We all ate of the various dishes etc. I’d wager that one evening makes me at least as knowledgable about Jewish and Christian culture and history. (That ain’t sayin much, this guy is a buffoon of the trumpiest order)
Do you realize that sound as weird to me as if I said that my synagogue did a reenactment of Christmas morning, with a real tree, and live children in pjs, and had gifts for the audience members to open?
Hey, go for it. Although there are already a lot more representations of Christmas morning traditions in popular media than there are Passover seder ones, so I’m not sure why it would be necessary.
Yeah, that’s bonkers.
I laughed out loud when I read that comment. Sometimes you see something so terribly absurd you can’t help but laugh. I still remember when Magic Johnson announced his HIV status he went out of his way to make it clear it was from heterosexual intercourse rather than intravenous drug use of homosexual activity. Oh, and Ryan White, a kid who got AIDS through a blood transfusion, had someone drive by his house and fire a few shots into it.
But, yeah, can you just imagine gay men, intravenous drug users, or the vast majority of people with AIDS being treated as pariahs? It’s enough to keep a guy awake at night.
I can see your perspective.
I thought it was a neat idea, for those christians who want to know more about where christianity came from and all that. It really was interesting.
I think us Jewish people find it pretty distasteful for our entire identity to be reduced to “where Christianity came from”. Not surprising, it’s about par for the course. Bit distasteful nonetheless.
I do now.
As a kid in the 1970s, attending a Catholic school, I remember doing a Seder (or, at least, an ersatz version of a Seder) at least once during school. I’m sure that the intent was to build understanding of the Passover, but OTOH, I’m also pretty sure that it was done in the context of why it was a relevant part of the Christian story.
Yeah… we’re not Christianity beta phase.
Yeah, I remember someone saying several of the Duggar girls wore Star of David necklaces. Really offputting.
I’m really curious to know how that “re-enactment” was played, @DorkVader . Christians, even mainstream Christians, have a very different interpretation of Passover than Jews do. You may have “learned” things about Passover very different than what Jews think about it. (Did you find the afikomen?)
I don’t have any idea how accurate it was.
Basically it was the pastor of the church and a woman (his wife? I dunno) and some other folks on stage playing as the family. At various points who ever was the main character for that part would turn and explain to the audience what they were doing and why and what the significance of that was.
The child playing the older son explained what a dreidel is and the games played with it. The wife character explained things like the bitter herbs and their meaning, the husband explained the various rituals and ceremonies.
They also engaged the audience by having the kids go around giving everyone samples of the various dishes so that they could participate in the celebration as well.
The child playing the older son explained what a dreidel is and the games played with it.
That sounds suspect already. The dreidel is much more associated with Hanukkah festivities than with Passover, as far as I’ve ever known.
Did the “youngest child” lead the house in reciting the Hadjidakis? Every Jewish child learns the Hadjidakis (also spelled Hatzidakis) for Passover.
Did the “youngest child” lead the house in reciting the Hadjidakis? Every Jewish child learns the Hadjidakis (also spelled Hatzidakis) for Passover.
Do you mean Kushiot? I tried looking up Hatzidakis in case it is a Diaspora term an Israeli like me wouldn’t have heard but didn’t find anything.
And yes the dreidel is purely a Hanukkah thing. That’s another example BTW, I still think that’s a weird name for a sevivon
And yes the dreidel is purely a Hanukkah thing. That’s another example BTW, I still think that’s a weird name for a sevivon
The Yiddish word dreydl comes from the word dreyen (“to turn”, compare to drehen , meaning the same in German). The Hebrew word sevivon comes from the Semitic root SBB (“to turn”) and was invented by Itamar Ben-Avi (the son of Eliezer Ben-Yehuda) when he was 5 years old. Hayyim Nahman Bialik used a different word, kirkar (from the root KRKR – “to spin”), in his poems,[16] but it was not adopted into spoken Hebrew.
As for Hadjidakis, I was just having some fun with DorkVader. Hadjidakis is actually the name of a famous 20th century Greek composer.
I think us Jewish people find it pretty distasteful for our entire identity to be reduced to “where Christianity came from”. Not surprising, it’s about par for the course. Bit distasteful nonetheless.
Upvote.
I couldn’t quite get my slogan together, but yeah.
I couldn’t tell you now with certainty, @Babale and @RivkahChaya, but what I knew of the pastor at the time wouldn’t lead me to think that it was meant as a purely infotainment show. He would have meant it to be something that says this is where we came from and these are God’s Chosen People, while we are the adopted. We are together in this and should have solidarity.
I took it that way anyway, not as a mere history lesson, though it was an attempt at that, and I’m sorry that has been your experience.