Nothing Ever Comes to No Good Up On Choctaw Ridge (Mysteries in pop music)

It is not quite that clear if you look at the proceeding line.

Well Im not the worlds most masculine man
But I know what I am and Im glad Im a man
And so is lola

Lola may be a man, or Lola may be glad the singer is a man.

SSG Schwartz

But she *talks *like a man. And the singer had never kissed a *woman *before. Boys will be girls.

No, there’s no doubt as to what the song means.

His father was

I figured that with Paul and Julio being the lovers, it was obvious the sex was gay (unless they were having a threesome with Rosie). But why would two boys having sex make the cover of Newsweek?

when I first heard the song, I was thinking the boys were doing drugs.

Does anyone know if this was ever an accepted dessert storage practice in Westlake in the late 60s? Another song says “It never rains in Southern California,” so I guess you could just leave cakes lying around outside worrying about them getting waterlogged.*

Che, those questions popped into my head when I read the OP. Let me add another: Couldn’t the singer just head to the nearest Ralphs to pick up another one, or two if the weather looked bad? There are now 3 Ralphs with bakeries within 2 miles of Macarthur Park, open 24 hours a day, raining or not. That’s not counting any Alpha Beta’s or Lucky’s that may have been around.

Here’s another question: Did the singer not know about the ever popular Tupperware cake keeper. Geez, we have the technology, people, just use it, dammit!!! Or was the singer such a loser that s/he couldn’t even get invited to a Tupperware party? That’s almost sadder than the watersoaked cake hysteria. Maybe s/he had a neurosis about burping plastic storage containers. Just like an onion, the more questions you ask, the more you find.

  • Bugs and small children would be hazards, I’d presume, but not rain.

I think we can safely conclude that storing cakes in an external environment should not be attempted without first obtaining a reliable weather forecast for the immediate locality. Such forecasts should clearly exclude those given in song lyrics.

Furthermore it should be noted that MacArthur Park was melting in the dark at the time, causing all the sweet, green icing to flow down from the top of the cake. I regard this as the strangest weather phenomenon ever witnessed by Man, with the possible exception of the time when it was raining men (Hallelujah).

If Ralphs sells cakes with sweet green icing on top then I couldn’t agree more.

That would depend on the size of the cake. The cake keeper featured in the link measures a mere 9 1/2" x 13 1/2" x 4". Inexplicably we are not given the cake dimensions in the song lyric which, in my view, is an oversight of cake-like proportions.

Tell me about it.

We’d better not read the full lyric otherwise we’ll be here all day.

Not here, at any rate.

Well one of them is to be caught down by the school yard with that slugabed Julio.

Gods!, but marque_elf would have loved this thread!

I think we pretty well learned where Hey, Joe was going with that gun in his hand…

This isn’t a question, but it’s something I’ve always wondered about. You see, my dad grew up near Blackburn, Lancashire. What are those holes? Mines? Something else?

From this site:

If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it!

Wow, a Peter Sarstedt reference! I love that song.

Now, did Bob Dylan kill Mister Gray and then his wife? Or was he really just lucky?

In Paradise by the Dashboard Light, why does the horny kid try a squeeze play with two out? No wonder the poor doofus can’t score without signing his life away!

Has this one been mentioned yet? In Tom Waits’ creepy “What’s He Building in There?” you get a lot of bizarre clues, but you never find out what he is building in there,

Why on earth did Neil Young shoot his baby, down by the river? So what, if she could drag him over the rainbow. Is that reason enough?

Hey Joe caught his old lady messin’ ‘round, messin’ 'round town, but I think Neil Young has a pretty poor excuse.

Why are so many guys shooting their women down, down to the ground?

I have one that I have always wondered about.

Freda Payne’s Band of Gold

You took me from the shelter of a mother I had never known
Who loved any other
We kissed after taking vows
But that night on our honeymoon
We stayed in separate rooms
Then later:

Hoping soon that you’ll walk
Back through that door
And love me like you tried before
All I can think of is that Encyte hadn’t been invented yet, the guy couldn’t do it, so walked out on her…
And I thought that it was confirmed that it was James Taylor that was so vain.

And are these true:

Seasons in the Sun= a guy on death row

I Think We’re Alone Now= gay teenagers

Yes.

Why did no-one seem to pay the drillin’ in the wall any mind? Was it so common in a saloon?

What is Norwegian Wood exactly?

Try the punctuation a little differently.

You took me from the shelter of a mother.
I had never known or loved any other.
We kissed after taking vows
But that night on our honeymoon
we stayed in separate rooms.

My take on it has always been that she was shy and scared because she had no experience, maybe she pushed him away, and that he had no patience. She’s hoping he’ll come back and give her another chance.