Now, Al Franken

I didn’t mean it sarcastically nor personally. I was giving an example of what - presumably - this would be like for a woman to wake up and find out has been done. It was a simile for any male reader, and not directed at the poster I was responding to in any particular way.

Or in any words. You’re speculating, and on shaky ground at that.

No, she was connecting the tongue-kiss to the groping.

Well now that you put it that way, I’m convinced. Should have said that originally.

As I said, I am doubtful of the claim about the kiss due to the alleged victim’s obvious political motivation to lie. But if it is true, it’s not just “wrong”, it’s criminal sexual assault and should end his political career immediately.

You snipped my quote for, um…clarity and brevity, right?:rolleyes:

Cite.

To make it clear which part I was reacting to.

My guess is that in the entertainment business there’s more opportunities for this, what with risqué skits and the like blurring the lines. OTOH, Franken was an entertainer for quite a while, so I wouldn’t be surprised if those lines got blurred on other occasions as well.

If it happened during his political career or with non-entertainers, that would be another level.

Assuming that he does resign (and yes I think it’s still a little early to be considering it seriously) I think the best bet is for the Democrats to go with an elder statesmen as a temporary replacement. Maybe Walter Mondale can come out of retirement?

He felt comfortable enough to do this in front of the tour photographer. This pic was released on the official CD of the tour, where she first saw this, according to the woman.

Perhaps Joe Biden is available?

He’s expressed his regret, admitted he’s a cad, apologized to Ms. Tweeden, and offered to take part in any ethics investigations. Most importantly, he didn’t try to justify his behaviour by invoking bronze-age fairy tale characters like the pedophilic Republicans have.

This is why I think he’s toast. Schumer cancelled a planned press conference after the news came out. He’s probably huddled with the other party leaders and maybe Franken, planning Franken’s demise. From their perspective, they’ll get a Democrat as a replacement and probably another in the special election, so forcing Franken out won’t cost them horribly. If they make an example of him, they get the high ground while the Republicans still have to deal with Moore. My predictions have been shit for the past couple years, but I’m thinking Franken is going to be spending more time with his family soon.

Of course. Because at the time he was in his Bad Boy Comic mode.

Franken also told the Harvard Crimson (in 1976) “I just don’t like homosexuals. If you ask me, they’re all homosexuals in the Pudding. Hey, I was glad when that Pudding homosexual got killed in Philadelphia”. That doesn’t mean it was true. He was in shock jock mode.

Again, that’s not to say that wasn’t an offensive photo and act, and if I was that woman I would be offended. But a lot of what these shock jocks do is offensive.

The political danger there is that once they’ve established the precedent that the correct response to accusations against a sitting senator is to force them to resign, you’ll probably be able to count the milliseconds on one hand until a bunch of red-state Dem senators have accusations made against them.

Three out of five. Elder Bush is quite handsy apparently.

Any evidence that any Repubs are pedophiles?

He also said he didn’t remember. It doesn’t sound like he has done the right thing to me.

In fact, I’d be surprised if there weren’t people already digging through old photos and contacting acquaintances of Manchin, Donnelly, Tester, Brown, etc.

Looks like a dumb joke to me. Mostly because its so clearly posed. The two-handed open thrust is a pointedly stupid way to “cop a feel”. Its a cliche. His backward over the shoulder leer underscores this, “look at this stupid joke I am making!”. And through a Kevlar vest? Only way you might know where they are is by an assumed and general topography, they’re usually right around here, somewhere.

A good man can, and will, be wrong. And adjust accordingly. Judge Teenyboink is the same man now as he was forty years past, mean-spirited, cruel and ignorant. Do I judge him for his politics? Hard to tell, chicken and egg, his politics are mean-spirited, cruel and ignorant as well.

Does this cause confusion to my enemies, the Forces of Darkness, do I look upon that with a measure of glee? Hugh Betcha!

Let’s try one more test of reading comprehension:

So “but he didn’t stop there” connects what to what? :rolleyes:

So do you think I’m hypocritical?

Do you think it’s disingenuous for me to claim to see a meaningful distinction between multiple substantiated allegations from women with no obvious motivation to lie and one unsubstantiated allegation from a woman with such an obvious motive? That doesn’t seem like an intellectually defensible position to you?