Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

Maybe, but it’s really no different from credit card numbers. In the US, if you have someone’s credit card number, you can use that to pay for things. Is that the case in other countries as well?

I have people much younger than that pay by check all the time. I also use checks to pay many of the business’s bills and taxes.

They still have their uses, though I don’t understand why people use them for day to day transactions.

That sounds so awesome to me…I really wasn’t aware of it.

I bet Twitter wouldn’t roll out such a service for free… Or maybe they will, and they’ll still find a less than receptive audience. I won’t even use my actual credit card on a Facebook donation post, and I certainly wouldn’t feel good about handing financial information over to Twitter.

I love Black Adder. :slight_smile:

Twitter’s position is unique, except for Facebook, or maybe Instagram, or Tiktok, and obviously Google. Do I have that right?

And “they never seemed interested” and “for whatever reason” are doing a lot of work. There are some possibilities:

  1. Facebook, Google, etc. just weren’t interested in making money.
  2. They were intereted in making money, but it never occurred to them that microtransactions might be a potential revenue stream.
  3. They thought about it, but failed to hire any good software engineers who knew how to write new code.
  4. They had good engineers, but the structural hurdles–federal banking regulations, financial institution fees, data security, and more–made it impractical.

It boggles the mind that you apparently think the answer is #1. #2 and #3 are similarly absurd. #4 is the only plausible answer.

As Sam well knows, in Canada, all you need is an email address.

Me, too. Back in December, Elmo summoned Twitter’s deputy general counsel out to San Francisco for a meeting. According to the counsel, who is my cousin, the meeting started out contentiously, but then turned amicable, and he left thinking that he and Elmo had been in accord.

On the plane back home, he discovered he’d been fired. By tweet. Sounds pretty fucking capricious to me.

@steronz is correct - we do know how many of these layoffs were done. Maybe Elmo did have some brilliant strategic long-term plan behind the layoffs, but in practical effect, they were capricious and ill-thought out - like, maybe he shouldn’t have fired the people who empty the trash and clean the restrooms at Twitter HQ; or the folks responsible for making sure the rent, electric, and phone bills were paid? Or making sure that Twitter complied with the FTC consent order that could get it shut down for violating, hmm? At a minimum, firing employees by tweet or email is absolutely shitty management, and sure as hell wouldn’t engender any loyalty to Twitter or Musk in me, if I were one of the remnant staff.

The broader point, @Sam_Stone, is that Musk’s achievements at Tesla, SpaceX, and such, are completely irrelevant to the topic of this thread, which is about Twitter. Maybe he is a genius engineer, or a brilliant visionary in rocketry, or the driving intelligence behind Starlink; he has abundantly demonstrated that he knows fuck-all about running a social media company, and it’s disingenuous at best for you to argue otherwise.

Only if you also have the CVV. And the phone TFA for online purchases, with my bank, anyway…

Europeans panic whenever paying by credit card in the United States, and the server takes the card away. In the United States, this is not a problem, but Europeans still get nervous. Similarly, the idea of giving someone your bank account number makes Americans very nervous.

It’s less of a problem than it used to be, but it really can be a problem.

I knew somebody whose card was taken away at a fast food place (yeah, that raises a lot of red flags, even in America) and was used to pay off some kind of loan. Yes, her bank flagged that one immediately, but it shouldn’t have happened in the first place.

…it is here.

In NZ, with a bank account number the only thing a person is able to do with it is to deposit funds. You can’t use it to withdraw funds. Unlike a debit/credit card, you don’t give someone your bank account number so people can charge you. If a random person had your bank account number they would have no way to access your account or to authorise a withdrawal.

In order to access your account (online or over the phone) you have a separate access number that typically would require a password and a secondary form of login, either 2FA or specific keyboard interactions. With my bank, if I add a new payee (name and bank account number) then in addition I need to use 2FA to authorise that.

The only exception to this are direct-debits. You can set up a direct-debit with a business (they automatically withdraw a set amount from your bank) that they use your bank account number to withdraw: however, they require a signed authority form filled out that is then authorised by the bank. Any fraudulent direct-debits would have a paper trail. And apparently our Inland Revenue Service have super secret ways of tracking all of this down.

So do I, and I live in the US - are you suggesting that it’s not possible for Americans to easily manage their finances this way, without Venmo, etc.? I’m just one data point, but nearly all of my recurring (and one-time, if I so choose) financial obligations are met through direct withdrawals from my bank account, plus a few directly made from my credit card (though my guess is that if I wanted, I could have those taken directly from my bank account as well).

…that’s a question you would need to direct to fellow Americans.

Elmo is now taking a page out of the Nigerian Prince playbook.

Didn’t Boy Wonder say he was giving up the position of CEO of Twitter a month and a half ago? Whatever happened to that?

Pssst. I think he was lying (again). :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

It’s just Agile genius.

Yes. If you fire your entire HR department, or your entire Payroll department, your large company is basically screwed.

“When a suitable replacement is found”. So never?

Christ. I may actually want to startup a bot account.