That’s Elmo’s true superpower: to make anyone else look good in comparison.
Elon Musk fights crime as THE UGLY FRIEND!
I mean…he’s coming off as the grownup in the room in all this.
Which just highlights how low the bar is for adulthood in this room.
If tomorrow’s headlines include one or more stupid tech-bros being beaten into a semi-permanent stupor that prevents them from speaking or typing ever again, I will officially call off the rest of my work shift, swing by the store and buy a bottle of the good stuff, the better to toast the day away.
I wish there were someone around to pick up the Musk-Is-God-but-misunderstood slack now that our “Canadian” friend has flounced. Wasn’t there another Muskfan around? Has Musk lost everyone on the board?
Maybe they could just have a food fight at a local chicken joint? If the Coliseum is not available, I mean.
That makes one of you? Personally, I am quite happy for this thread to continue as an ongoing critique of dumbass things Musk does—perhaps with occasional unicorn sightings of Musk doing some non-dumbass thing now and then—rather than having to periodically bat away flimsy speculative rationalizations about why some dumbass thing Musk is doing actually shouldn’t be considered dumbass.
Well, I can’t think of any Doper past or present whom I ever considered a totally uncritical Musk fanboi. Both nate and Sam_Stone, IIRC, have spent a fair bit of time pushing back against specific instances of Musk-bashing, with varying degrees of plausible justification along with consistent (and IMHO usually pretty well deserved) lack of success.
But ISTM that neither of them was ever full-on irrationally committed to unswerving support of Musk’s actions. And these days, supporting Musk’s actions is definitely becoming significantly more difficult for anybody who isn’t full-on irrational.
Sorry, I was being sarcastic on that one. And yes, it was nate that was the other musk fan.
What I wrote is true of Trump fans too. Not many left around to support his idiot ways.
Sadly this board is just a microcosm. Trump has plenty of supporters, amazingly, enough to make things very close, and while most concede Musk’s management of Twitter has been confusing they can and do point to other relative successes.
He has a few more supporters on the board than that, but that seems to be overwhelmingly due to the technologies he supports and promotes - i.e they like EVs and rocket ships and think they’re important. As you say most if not all seem willing to concede that he can be a difficult asshole. Some just seem to feel that is irrelevant to the overall good his companies accomplish in terms of the environment and pushing boundaries in space. Which, fair enough.
Not me though - I dislike shitty, petty, tyrannical CEO’s no matter how much good they inadvertently accomplish .
I can think of at least one other hardcore Musk zealot, but since he seems not to have made an appearance in this thread it would be crass to mention him.
I am in the “likes EVs and rockets” boat, and I consider some of the processes being implemented by Tesla and SpaceX to be interesting and potentially very useful. However, it’s my opinion that those processes benefit most by Musk being distracted so that he doesn’t ruin them. The only thing I’ve seen him actually succeed at is finding some intelligent people who are passionate about making certain things and letting them do so.
That capacity, if it was ever more than a fluke, seems to have deserted him in his descent into irrationality and grotesquerie.
Why did Zuck choose fighting as a way to compete against Musk? Was Musk into MMA training or something? I never quite understood why Zuck chose that sport for the competition. I know Zuck has been doing training and looks like he’s made gains–it’s not surprising he would want to use that skill in competition–but I never heard of Musk being into fighting. It seems like it would be like someone who’s into ski racing wanting to challenge a non-skier to a downhill race.
Musk reportedly trained in multiple martial arts as a child (judo, karate, and taekwondo) and recently trained a bit in jiu-jutsu. In other words, he’s a dabbler. He does not do it seriously or compete the way Zuckerberg does. However, in Elon’s narcissistic Dunning-Kruger brain, he is a master martial artist and of course can beat a rival at anything.
Until he starts to think about actually having to fight someone, then he realizes he will get his ass kicked and makes up excuses while still trying to put himself out there as a badass.
Other way around
Musk, jealous and probably very high at the time, challenged Zuck to a “cage match” via public tweet. Note this would have been a few weeks after Zuck did pretty well (for his weight class/experience level) in some local Brazilian jiu-jitsu tourney and that was making the news.
Zuck called the bluff. But Musk, once he’s caught saying/doing something stupid, is the sort to double down
Thanks. I missed that Musk made that initial challenge. That makes things clearer that Musk was just being his usual blowhard self.