Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2)

Sounds very much like him.

No money, just company scrip. Only earned by working for the company, and only redeemable at the company store (where nothing else is accepted). The coal-mining town scenario writ large. Or District 12, take your pick.

Admittedly it’s hard to envision how a freewheeling market could work in a place where air, and potable water, have to be manufactured.

You’re just not seeing the “opportunities” inherent in such a marketplace. :astonished_face:

For the right kind of guy.

The very notion of an atmosphere is inherently communistic.

Indeed.

Also worth remembering that except for the few who ran off to be survivalists (more or less), everyone else fell into hegemony as Earth used the demand for ROI to drive increasing control over the population.

Substantially all potable water on Earth today is manufactured.

At least in the sense that non-potable water is captured from the environment of streams, rivers, lakes, wells, and oceans, then processed into potability using a big local factory / facility, then distributed from there to end users.

And oddly enough, this provision of potable water is usually a government civic works monopoly. In the places it isn’t, potable water is scarce and expensive. Even if non-potable water is plentiful.

Odd that.

Generally true. At a minimum, tap water has to be filtered and chlorinated. Still, here in Canada – at least in Ontario – there are many streams, both underground and above-ground – whose water is clean and safe to drink. It’s one reason that bottled spring water is practically free – you’re really just paying for the container, transportation, and some profits along the way. In fact up north, there are many lakes in wilderness camping areas like Killarney Park where the lake water is perfectly safe to drink. I am living evidence of that fact.

For sure wilderness and some rural water is consumed right from the environment. As a percentage of all consumption it’s a rounding error if that big.

But yeah, very satisfying to drink.

Satisfying; the bear piss, the organic quadrillion microorganisms, made us stronger, it did. I drank it too on hikes . I’m so proud of my grandkids drinking from the water hose filling the splash pool. Something I did a zillion years ago. Nutrients (other stuff), it does a body good.

If nothing else, you consume all your “wild” water brought to a boil in the form of coffee, tea and soup.

The only time I drank from a stream was when I was hiking in the middle of nowhere, Iceland, and it was meltwater from a glacier five miles away. It was, indeed, refreshing.

That’s about the only time I’d drink from a stream. It’s not the bear piss that’s the problem, it’s the bear shit. Giardia is everywhere.

Elon thinks the editor of the Economist is a “traitor to the West” for pointing out in the interview he did with them that his claims of an imminent post-scarsity age of universal abundance contradict his claims that immigrants are poisoning Europe.

The Economist, whether one likes their politics or not, is famously hard on bullshit wherever they find it.

How a bullshit-filled blowhard like musk thought he’d come out looking good dealing with someplace like them is hard to fathom. Of course my comment assumes musk is still capable of logical rational thought. Which seems an increasingly unsustainable assumption.

Musk’s post-scarcity idea is entirely predicated on underpants gnome logic.

  1. Create an intelligence greater than a human.
  2. Post-scarcity utopia

…and now he’s retweeting references to the Turner Diaries and calling for the interviewer to be executed.

I have a feeling there’s some context missing here. “High income” will be limited to the techbros, and perhaps some honorary 'bros like the Trump clan. The normies — those who haven’t been liquidated as surplus or inferior — will be privileged to live where they are told and work at whatever jobs they are assigned in return for whatever goods and services their superiors deign to grant them. All normie jobs will have the ultimate goal of creating wealth for the 'bros; and if an individual can no longer contribute to that goal (or becomes “uppity”) … well, they shoot horses, don’t they?