7 Q. Did your daughter ever report that [Johnny Doe 1] had
8 been found in Walter’s bed?
9 A. She did.
10 Q. Did you find that odd?
11 A. No. Walter had shared a bed with me on many
12 occasions perfectly innocently.
13 Q. You knew that Walter was a pedophile at that
14 time?
15 A. I knew it. Intellectually, yes, I knew it.
16 Q. And you knew that he was sharing a bed with a
17 13-year-old boy at that point; correct?
18 A. Yes. But, as I say, I believed Walter was
19 impotent and nothing that could bother anyone could
20 happen.
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1 Q. At the time were you aware that [Johnny Doe 1]
2 was in Walter’s bed on more than one occasion?
3 A. No, I was not.
4 Q. Did you make any attempts to adopt
5 [Johnny Doe 1]?
6 A. Yes.
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13 Q. Did you have to undergo any kind of
14 interviews or evaluation for the fitness of being
15 adoptive parents?
16 A. Yes. We went to a class for counseling for
17 adoptive parents.
18 Q. And at what time frame was this that you had
19 heard the report that [Johnny Doe 1] had been in Walter’s
20 bed?
21 A. I don’t remember.
22 Q. Can you give me an estimate or approximation?
23 A. No; I really can’t. That was a long time
24 ago.
25 Q. Was it when you were living at 2221 Prince
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1 Street with Walter?
2 A. Yes.
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8 Q. Was it before Ken Smith’s molestation was
9 reported?
10 A. I never heard of Ken Smith. I mean, I’m told
11 now that I know who he was, but I don’t have any clear
12 memory of him.
13 Q. Do you recall the fact that Walter was
14 arrested for the molestation of Ken Smith?
15 A. Yes.
16 Q. Was the fact that Walter was in bed with
17 [Johnny Doe 1] known to you before Ken Smith was arrested?
18 A. Yes.
19 Q. Strike that. I’m going to ask the question
20 again.
21 Was the fact that Walter was in bed with
22 [Johnny Doe 1] known to you before Walter was arrested for
23 the molestation of Ken Smith?
24 A. Yes.
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10 Q. Where was he found in bed with [Johnny Doe 1]?
11 A. I don’t remember.
12 Q. Okay.
13 A. I thought of [Johnny Doe 1] as a little boy that came
14 over the house, and he used to sit on my lap.
15 Q. Did you think [Johnny Doe 1] was of the age to make
16 decisions whether or not he could have a sexual
17 relationship with Walter?
18 A. I was sort of ambivalent about that. [Johnny Doe 1]
19 was like a stray cat that somebody put out on the
20 street, and I think he was surviving any way he could.
21 Q. That would include having sex with older men?
22 A. Probably.