Huh, goes to show how nice context is. If only he’d provided some…
What I read was the level was 10,000 higher than normal for that section. The water in that sections gets exposed to the core, but the core is safe and undamaged so that radiation is a bit surprising. It was certainly surprising to the people who stood in it ankle deep for 40 minutes.
I await your explanation as to how core radiation is contaminating water it is safely not in any contact with.
I’m not aware of the specifics of this situation, but nuclear medicine largely works by bombarding non-radioactive materials with proton streams to produce radioactive versions (Oxygen 18 to Fluoride 18 mainly in my industry). Similarly gamma and neutron bombardment through physical barriers can activate the water and anything dissolved in it. Deionized water is generally used because of a lack of dissolved material, sea water may contain a number of materials that could become activated and then emit ionizing radiation to those in contact or proximity to the water.
This is all just speculation on my part though.
Here’s the latest from CSM:
Wow, they ignored the radiation alarms and kept working.
Yeah, sadly there’s an old-school mentality in some of the nuclear industry that ‘real men take dose’. I was lucky enough to see that banished from my location when I started working.
Well naturally, whem I’m working in ankle-deep water that might be radioactive, and my dosimeter goes off, my first reaction is that the dosimeter must be faulty. It’s what any sane person would think.
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I’m guessing that it went along the lines of “there is no danger of corium being released…” or something like that.
I’m seriously starting to become concerned for my fucking lungs at this point. Serious engineer types and nuclear physics understanding bastards with cool heads are beginning to jitter.
There may be no way to stop it. Of course I fucking well panicked over that shit two weeks ago, but now it looks all official and shit.
Of course a kid with a remote controlled helicopter, some duct tape and a digital camera would have better video of the place than any of the media or “official” sites have shown anyone.
Hell grandma shuffling around with her cane and a Geiger counter would have reported better readings than TEPCO about the four reactor buildings by now. Or what’s left of them.
But hey, the fucking herd won’t panic if they don’t know what a wolf even looks like, and the Shepard protects his flock. Because he is going to make chops out of the tender ones this weekend.
You freak out about the leaking radiation but don’t even think of the effect that would have on unshielded electronics?
Geiger counters? Cascading makes them unreliable. I’d choose a Geiger-Mueller myself, but hey you’re an ‘expert’ or some crap.
Looking at the analysis of the water that burned the workers it’s obvious that the reactor was breached. The Chlorine-38 is an oddity, but no doubt due to the sea water that has been used.
Cite, please?
After all, for us poor shmucks who lack your knowledge of nuclear fission and reactor design, following your earlier statements that the entire site is a nuclear hellhole, it’s hard to see why the presence of radioactive water in the basement is a surprise. Why, haven’t you stated repeatedly that the whole area is highly radioactive? What makes this latest incident of low level radiation exposure significant?
The technical term is “it’s a clusterfuck!” We aren’t going to know the full extent and the specifics of the Fukushima clusterfuck until a full post-mortem is done. And that will take years. And then we will have to wait for the official release.
Unless we adopt the position that nothing really bad can happen and refuse to move off of that position no matter who is fleeing the country and how many people are suffering radiation exposure and how badly.
Japan workers exposed to 10,000 times safe radiation - Arabian Business: Latest News on the Middle East, Real Estate, Finance, and More None that you can understand. read it.
The headline says, “10 000 times safe radiation”. The article says, “10 000 times usual level”. What to believe?
OMG! Sam Stone just made a bunch of shit up and called it facts? OMFG! What’s next? Claiming that a cite says something it doesn’t say? :eek:
Thanks for posting. Around here, anytime someone cites Germany’s approaches to energy, they are immediately slammed with how Germany is a complete failure, the people are starving and living in the streets, Business is non-existent, and anyone who thinks it’s okay for ordinary people to generate power and feed it to the grid are communist baby-killing monsters.
Just because babies are carbon neutral doesnt mean its okay to burn em for fuel.
I hear ya. You might think they would report what was in the water, the isotopes, and what amounts. Or report it in an amount using standard units, so scientists and smart people around the world could know what is happening. But no, they actually phrase it as “10,000 times the ‘normal’ amount found in the reactor.”
Which CNN and others turned into 10,000 times normal, like water has some sort of normal level of deadly radiation.
Even so, they don’t say what the ‘normal’ level is, so nobody knows shit about what really happened. Except for experts in radiation who know exactly what it means when after 45 minutes your skin is burned from contact with radioactive material.
I don’t know anybody who still buys the bullshit that “they just don’t know”, or “they are too busy to take measurements of the radiation levels”, or whatever excuse/rationalization the true nuclear believer is hanging onto.
Meanwhile the idiot press has ramped up their fear mongering, claiming that “Nuclear crisis now worse than Three Mile Island”.
Now you say that? You complete fucking tools. It was way worse than three mile island the day the first reactor building blew to shit. The second and third explosions might have been a clue.
You fear mongering bastards.