Nuclear meltdown! Holy Godzilla NOOOO!!!

You really should try reading your own cites, sometime:

“residents in Fukushima insist that the situation is safe and that the media, in fanning unwarranted fears, are damaging the economy of the region.”

"the school’s doctor in his white coat stated matter-of-factly that, based on science, people should know that the worst of the earthquake damage had passed and that radiation leakages from the Fukushima Daiichi plant were decreasing and would soon fade away.
“The radiation problem is already finished,” he told the children and their parents. “You can go to school and go outside without any problem. You should not fear malicious gossip.”

“Ikarashi Yoshitaka, 33, is one who is particularly keen on restoring his business and the local economy, a goal that leads him to downplay warnings of radiation risk.“It is just an emotional thesis that ours is ‘a city in danger!’” he insisted. Together with dozens of volunteers from across Japan, Ikarashi has visited many areas throughout the radiation exclusion zone. He confidently asserts that his $600 made in U.S “Geiger counter” has detected no abnormal amount of radiation.”

“an unscientific optimism” is an apt description of what we have seen since day one of the disaster. On internets. No matter that each passing day brought worse news, that the situation deteriorated to the point where it quite simply couldn’t get much worse, the strident preachers of the true nuclear faith never stopped trying to downplay any danger, and risk, and this still continues to this day.

http://japanfocus.org/-Makiko-Segawa/3516

My sarcastic assaults on the almost complete lack of actual data, starting right after the first big explosion, certainly irked the true believers. I’m saddened to find that while I thought it was all due to TEPCO and the usual tendency to hide bad shit, it also turned out to be that TEPCO, and the entire Japanese Government, was actually completely unprepared to not only deal with a nuclear disaster, but they don’t even have the tools to measure how bad a disaster is.

While this doesn’t bother the nuclear defender a bit, it certainly concerns any rational human being who learns of it.

I appreciate that you can’t be bother reading other peoples cites, or indeed your own cites, but could you at least decide whether you want to label the people who disagree with you as believers or deniers?

Although going by your past form, I suppose you could now be building to an accusation that we’re flip flopping on the issue.

Nuclear denier is a play off of “climate deniers” or what ever nonsense somebody came up with to try and slander the opposition.

True believer, or nuclear believer or what ever is also just as stupid.

http://www.nirs.org/factsheets/whynewnukesareriskyfcts.pdf I wonder if Peter Bradford would be labeled a denier. He was a former Commissioner of the Nuclear Regulatory Comm.
He voiced many of the same problems we brought up in this thread. The costs are always underestimated by about 100 percent. The amount of energy produced is always less than promised and it costs more than estimated.
He also voices a fear that the regulators show a deference to the economics over the public safety. He talks of the dwindling uranium supples and of course the problem without an answer, the waste and spent fuel rods. He has more though. ,
He even got into terrorist attacking plants .
But if he is not a dead head believer, he just doesn’t know enough. Comm. of the NRC is not enough of an expert.

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Since he’s written papers and gone on the record as opposing nuclear energy, though carefully stating that he doesn’t oppose ALL nuclear energy, I’d say he’s more in your camp than anything else. It’s funny that you should point to him as being some sort of nuclear advocate who has had a change of heart…or something. :stuck_out_tongue:

Sort of like the ‘scientists’ who, after careful and introspective thought, have to conclude that evolution is a crock, and really ID is the only rational position available…

-XT

What an idiotic troll you have become.

That is not an accurate description of the AP1000’s passive cooling system, and your conclusion is incorrect.

The AP1000 uses a steel containment shell surrounded by a concrete chimney structure. The passive emergency cooling system is internal to the steel shell and works by keeping the reactor core immersed in boiling water, the steam from which condenses on the inside of the steel containment and runs back down to the core. The steel shell therefore acts as a giant heat radiator for cooling the core, with the external chimney taking the heat away by convection.

The gravity feed tank provides additional cooling to the outside of the shell to help remove the initial high levels of decay heat after reactor shutdown. Note that decay heat is around 7% of the total thermal output of the reactor immediately after shutdown, and drops to 1% within an hour, 0.1% within 24 hours, and continues to reduce with time. The gravity-fed supplementary water cooling of the outside of the steel shell is only required during the initial stage, after which the passive cooling can take care of itself indefinitely.

Denier was a term that came from the 15th century,

Perfectly applicable for people that declare that something is untrue.

And as I have seen before, it is clear that you are also a global warming denier. That is full of stupid.

Name calling is a sign of true intellectual development. It works so much better than science in settling matters.

Did you not 3 posts before call someone a troll? Can you not even remember your own posts that far back?:rolleyes:

Having already already established you don’t read other people’s cites, your own cites, or other people’s posts…having seen all of the above, still it comes as a bit of a jolt to find you don’t even take in your own posts.

I know just what you mean.

He’s either completely insane, or having a bit of fun at your expense. I don’t know which is worse really.

Or he’s a fucking idiot who has now started referring to himself in the 3rd person.

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He’s either completely insane, or having a bit of fun at your expense. I don’t know which is worse really.
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Is referring to yourself in the 3rd person an affectation, or are you really as batshit crazy as you appear? Just curious.

-XT

My criteria for insanity online involves actually responding to trolls, you know, getting into a long fight with some anonymous idiot over something neither of you can actually do anything about.

Getting pissed off, thinking about it (or them) even when you are not online. Checking the topic first where some idiot has pissed you off, always responding to your opponents, arguing every last little point, name calling, it’s all part of some sort of online psychosis.

I advise avoiding it at all costs. Even if people think you are an idiot, accuse you of all kinds of chicanery, deception, bad intent or mental illness, the only way to really lose is to get into a discussion with them about it.

Wait …
Did I just do that?

The only way to avoid such a waste of time and energy, (as well as confirming you are suffering some sort of mental deficiency), the only way to escape is reality.

I prefer science, but any sort of reality will work. Like this.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-27/tokyo-water-radiation-falls-to-zero-for-first-time-since-crisis.html

Highest readings yet, radiation is getting worse.

Latest flying robot/drone footage

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/27_10.html

Fukushima radiation map released

close up view of map

I’ve got a hundred or so other links, but seriously, is anybody going to look at them?

For the reader who actually cares about reality, the latest fact based report.

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/RS_Recovery_and_rubble_at_Fukushima_2704111.html

This video http://youtu.be/_6OKg9rc7pU clearly shows one area that was reported at 900mSv/hr

Those are troll facts. Only an idiot would post fake links to troll facts. The radiation isn’t going to hurt anyone because lots of people haven’t died from it yet. You are a poopy head for trash talking nuclear power, which is like the energy generated when burning unicorn farts: clean and non-global warming.