NYC Mayor election thread

Average Boomer, not average person. Gen X and younger know who the Millennials are.

Yep, the Red states are almost all on the government dole.

Pfffft. The California, Chicago, New York dole. I feel disinclined to continue supporting them.

I think the idea that young people 18-24 are Gen Z rather than millennials is finally starting to percolate into popular consciousness. Only had to wait to reach middle age for it to happen!

Even with the more-plausible revised figures, Mamdani got a big bump with voters under 50. Reminds me of Jeremy Corbyn: he had old-school socialist policies and got out the youth vote, inspired a lot of passionate support, but lost two general elections. Mamdani should be able to win NYC, but the risk is that nationally this sort of economic platform alienates as many people as it attracts.

Had 18-24 year-olds been the largest bloc, wouldn’t political statisticians have noticed a significant uptick in voter registrations among that cohort before the primary?

Because he was a terrible party leader and opposition leader. But the alternatives were worse.

I don’t think there’s a direct lesson to be drawn from Corbyn to apply to Mamdani; he will have (indeed, already has) internal party issues and media smear campaigns, but being NYC mayor is a very different job to being a UK MP.

True. There was also a fairly large bloc in the Labour party who strongly opposed his platform and politics, which I think is also the case for Mamdani with the Dems.

I think the lesson of Mamdani’s win is that Americans are unhappy with their practical/financial circumstances and want change - and this was also responsible in part for Trump’s win. I didn’t believe for a moment that Trump’s policies would do what he promised, and I doubt Mamdani’s will, either. Neither mercantilism nor socialism is a recipe for wealth and success.

Fox News on Monday continued its crusade against New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani, promoting the bizarre Republican idea to have the Democrat deported.

At a White House press briefing, Fox News correspondent Peter Doocy asked if President Donald Trump would be interested in deporting Mamdani. Instead of dismissing the premise of the question, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said she hadn’t heard Trump call for that measure but that he “does not want this individual to be elected.”

Does FAUXNews know what trump is thinking (excuse the expression) even before Donnie himself does?

Sounds like a position Schumer and Jeffries might support./s

But wouldn’t Susan Collins be concerned?

This comment is sarcasm, but I’ve been seeing a variety of comments in this and other threads (like this one) that state or imply that Democratic party “elites” are somehow sabotaging or working against Mamdani. Can anyone tell me how exactly this is manifesting? What exactly are they doing? (I’m truly asking here, not suggesting that it’s not happening.)

There this from Sen. Gillibrand that was linked above, but that link is so clearly biased as to be largely useless as journalism.

This is from just one of many articles about the “meltdown” happening among donors and party leaders about Mamdani:

  • The top two Democratic leaders in Congress, Sen. Chuck Schumer and Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, both New Yorkers, declined to endorse Mamdani even as they applauded his victory.
  • New York Rep. Laura Gillen, from Nassau County, called Mamdani the “absolute wrong choice for New York.”
  • Rep. Tom Suozzi, also from Nassau County, said he had “serious concerns.”
    Other House Democrats from New York who hadn’t backed Mamdani were mostly tight-lipped Wednesday.
  • Reps. Pat Ryan, Josh Riley and Ritchie Torres — who went so far as to say he wouldn’t run for governor if Mamdani won — all dodged reporters.
  • Rep. Dan Goldman, asked if he had any thoughts on the result, told Axios: “Not right now.”
  • Major Democratic donors — who poured tens of millions into a Super PAC for Cuomo — were having private discussions Wednesday about whether to back an independent run by Cuomo in November’s general election, or rally behind unpopular incumbent Mayor Eric Adams, who’s also running as an independent.

It looks as if Cuomo is not going to run as an independent but there are still Democrats who will likely support Adams rather than a person who is a progressive, Democratic Socialist and Muslim.

As I showed above, most NYC mayor candidates get few, if any endorsements from “Top Democrats”- Mandani actually got more than others.

So, this accusation is totally bogus.

I totally doubt that. Adams will not be backed by any important Dems- he is a loon. . Some Moderate Dems might just stay home, instead.

Where’s the “meltdown” though?

Also, did Mamdani endorse Kamala for president? :thinking:

One of these things is not like the others.

Not supporting someone because you disagree with their political beliefs (Progressive and Democratic Socialist refer to two groups of political beliefs, one of which I would support and one of which I would oppose) is not the same as not supporting someone because of their religious or ethnic background (Unless they’re fundamentalists but that’s a political position).

I am sorry, totally wrong here, somehow I thought that Sliwa, the GOP candidate was whom we were talking about. Mind fart, sorry. Adams is the current mayor. Silwa is a loon, not Adams.

While that list certainly does not indicate full-throated support, it is also not indicative of a “meltdown” or anywhere close to the kind of political assassination (not literal assassination) that people have been implying.

The last bullet point is the only significant action that would be seriously undermining to Mamdani, and it’s a vague report about unnamed people discussing something that may or may not happen.

If “big name” Democrats endorse or support an Independent candidate over a Democratic candidate in the NYC mayoral race, the answer will be shown to the question “Why do Democrats continue to lose elections?”
If the Democratic party is to survive this Trump time, they’d better remember to stick together, or they’re toast.

Yeah, really, that just shows me the NYC Dem Establishment Dems concussed and dazed from the primary result.

Can’t blame them insofar as Mamdani was quite a straight out “dark horse” shock to the system. But it’s also probably hit them, what does it say that they could not find a “clean” (*) respectable mainstream standardbearer who could click with the voters?

( * again, come on, if you resigned under a cloud, stay gone ; especially if you’re ditching the incumbent because of his own dodgy conduct)

Adams is a corrupt, Trump-kowtowing piece of shit. Anyone choosing him over a young Democrat who turned out tons of young voters is choosing the past over the future. It’s as clear as glass that the future of the party is young, charismatic, progressive candidates like Mamdani and AOC that are willing to fight as well as buck the conventional wisdom.

I used to see the Democratic party as the only party that could beat Republicans. It helped that I tended to support the things that Democrats supported.
I won’t suggest that the Democratic party is shooting themselves in the foot, because it seems more like they are shooting themselves in the head.