Aspirations? Christ, you would have thought they wrestled the bad guy to the ground before he could push the button on the detonator. This is a bunch of morons talking some kill america chit in a chat room. That’s about as far away from actual execution that you can get. Now am I happy they busted a bunch of fools and are investigating them? I sure am, I’m thrilled. Am I happy with the way our govt is blowing this like they they just saved us from a glass parking lot? Hell no!
CNN kept repeating the tiny little information they had about this “massive plot” this morning, and I kept wondering what was so newsworthy about it. I knew it was just a slow news day when the following happened:
They were talking about the moment of silence in London to commemorate the people who died a year ago today during the bombings. Ok, so far so good. Then the talking head says, “Let’s listen to some of that silence right now.” Then they played some white noise.
What would make you happy here, World Eater? Confronting the terrorists just moments before they blew up the explosives they eventually managed to get into the tunnel and shooting them with an uzi like someone out of a Bruce Willis movie?
I’m quite sure 9/11 started out as “some kill america chit in a chat room”. The fact that 9/11 happened points to what happened when you don’t take things like this really, really seriously from the start.
I think I’m with Linty on this one, I don’t know if there’s much in the way of overreaction when it comes to this kind of talk, but then again I think that some of the sentiments that have been posted on this board before might fall into the same category. Don’t we have the freedom to say whatever we want, in an intellectual ideas kind of a way?
But that seems to me to be exactly what happened. From your CNN link:
So, if the “plot” was uncovered several months ago, and the suspect was arrested more than a month ago, but the story is just now surfacing, it seem to me that the U.S. government, rather than trumpeting a minor success, has actually been kinda quiet about it.
Christ, give em a god damned break already. These people work night and day trying to protect us. Throw em a fucking bone once in a while, or at the very least, don’t rub their noses in dogshit. Prick.
The “plot” was to blow up the Holland Tunnel and flood lower Manhattan.
Which is fucking stupid. Lower Manhattan is above sea level. So blowing a hole in the tunnel wouldn’t flood anything other than the tunnel itself. Assuming you could even blow a hole through plate steel and granite bedrock.
There don’t seem to have been any concrete plans. No money or money trail. No explosives. No conspirators actually in the United States or Europe. Nothing, it seems, other a bunch of idiots shooting their mouths off in some random internet chat room about their violent fantasies.
It’s my impression that this is what the media would like us to believe. That way they can sell more papers or throw up blinking 60 point banners.
Now I’ll remove one of my beefs and wait to see what the govt does. But the first time Bush, Rummy, Condi, Snow, and a host of other characters trumps this out as preventing “a major attack” (within the week), I win.
Who the hell suggested that we don’t take this seriously. Just don’t spin it to be something it’s not. A major attack.
It seems to me that the news has been withheld until it can do the most PR good. It hit the mediasphere on Friday morning to make a big splash as people were heading into the weekend. Fewer people will read the paper or watch the news on Saturday, and on Sunday this will be all over the morning political shows where the pundits can coo over it. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if there’s some damaging story that will be released late this afternoon or tonight that this little tidbit is designed to timed to cover for.
Good work, World Eater. You said you’d retract one of your beefs and wait to see what the gov’t has to say. Then, in your very next post, the one I just quoted, you amplify the very thing you say you’re gonna withhold.
Well, that might explain the government holding the information for a couple days, but not an entire month. A much more logical reason for withholding the information, would be to protect the investigation - one that CNN has called “continuing.”
Ya know, I’m one skeptical, cynical sumbitch. But the lengths to which some of you folks seem to want to go to find fault with the Bush administration is laughable. Some of you guys make me seem like a sunny optimist with rainbows and kittens shooting outta my asshole. It all to often seems that the first conclusion you jump right to is that the Bush administration either fucked up because it’s fantastically incompetent, or it’s diabolically clever. And once you’ve arrived there at that point, all manner of logical thinking goes right out the damn window. You seem unable to rationally scrutinize your opinions when it comes to this administration.