O Lord, am I in trouble!

Eonwe , I knew you had taste! Can you imagine what the fundies would do if they got a hold of those books? Spontaneously combust, is my guess.

I’d be inclined to stay out of shape if that place were my only alternative.

And they are perpetuating the lie that will not die: “Prayer is forbidden in school.” You can pray all you want to in any public school. What you can’t do is impose your prayer on someone else.

Homebrew, I had no idea there was a religion that was opposed to organized sports. How do they explain that? I am really bemused.

The rationale was that people bet on the outcome of sporting events; therefore it was sinful to participate in them.

What if you had started placing bets on what the theme of the weekly sermon would be. Would that make them stop?

sigh I guess it’s asking too much for some people to be logical. Things like that never fail to astonish me. You’d have to ban everything. People use computers to gamble on line, so you have to ban those. You could bet on the sex of a recently-conceived child. But I like CloudCar’s suggestion best.

Thanks! Though this is a slight hijack, let me recommend “Lamb” by Christopher Moore (full title: Lamb: The Gospel according to Biff, Jesus’s childhood Pal).

Kind of a similar irreverent yet well thought-out and and respectful book, which is very funny.

I understand your POV, Homebrew, and I don’t have an issue with the “withdraw” part. Maybe I misunderstood, but I took the Kool-aid comment to be an invitation for them all to commit suicide a la Jim Jones/Guyana. I didn’t think (and I hope I’m right) that you didn’t have that kind of hatred in you.