The fact that a black man has been elected president has very little positive effect on what day to day life as a minority is like. This is something that all of the black people I know have been discussing amongst ourselves for the last six months. One of the biggest problems? People who think that Obama’s election has shown that racism is dying or dead, and therefore the work of anti-racism has lost a portion of its strength, because people no longer think it’s necessary or as necessary. There is far, far, far too much self-congratulations amongst white people, frankly. “Look, we’re not as bad as you thought! We voted for one of you!” Yay. Color me impressed when I’m ignored in the jewelry store or get followed through Macy’s by the world’s most obvious “loss prevention specialist.”
Since when does the Secret Service release data on death threats to the President, especially to some dingaling who’s writing a book?
Depends on where. In GD, probably less than ten percent. In the Pit. 23.6%, plus or minus .03. 
Are you really trying to deny that Der Trihs is a hate-spewing bigot? And have you considered why you attack me and not him?
Regards,
Shodan
I wonder how many Clinton faced? He certainly faced a lot of similar bizarro-conspiracy-lunacy to what Obama’s faced, much of it extremely hateful. (I don’t think the birthers generally consider Obama a mass-murderer, f’rinstance).
To the extent that the birthers overlap with the people showing up at Town Halls claiming that Obama’s health care plan will require euthanasia of the elderly and anyone with a disability (doubt there’s much distinction in that Venn diagram) – yes, they do.
That is an excellent point. They keep death threats secret (hence their name) because part of their mission is to make it look like things are always under control. Even if Obama gets more death threats than George W Bush did, why weren’t Bush’s death threats made public. For that matter, all modern presidents and ex-presidents get death threats all the time. How much do you hear about those unless it was acted on? That renders the whole premise of this thread suspect.
I’d never deny that. For some reason, it was your post-pattern that irritated me in this case, but you’re right, that his post-pattern is equally irritating.
I dunno, serving a black man might make him a race traitor or something.
-Joe
I’m equally irritating as Der Trihs? Now that’s an insult!
Regards,
Shodan
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Depends on where. In GD, probably less than ten percent. In the Pit. 23.6%, plus or minus .03.
Are you really trying to deny that Der Trihs is a hate-spewing bigot? And have you considered why you attack me and not him?
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Oh, look, another “No U”. Shocking.
-Joe
Yeah, if you’re gonna court racists, you should court black and brown racists, not white ones.
Two points. First, a number of open racists supported Obama because they thought a black man in the White House would spur mainstream white Americans to “wake up”, paving the way for their “racial holy war”.
Two, there are a lot of racists who tend towards a populist ecopolitical philosophy. The Klans, Aryan Brotherhood and similar groups are unarguably on the conservative end of the spectrum, but the more “urban” racist groups- Neo-Nazis, mostly- are often (though not mostly) more on the liberal side in terms of politics and economics.
That’s only a minority of whites. Most of us are sick of hearing you whine and snarl about racism all the time and see no reason that we should be endlessly preoccupied with your complaints, accusations and sensitive little feelings.
Most of us are sick of you. Shouldn’t you be over at S***mfront?
Yeah - who has time for whining and snarling when there is cotton to be picked! :rolleyes:
This seems like nothing more than irrelevant nastiness (to Republicans, that is, not to me). Perhaps you can explain what your point is in the context of this discussion.
Not at all. You seem to be suggesting that overlap in political views between racist Southerners and Republicans is coincidental. It’s not: the GOP spent decades trying to tear racist Southerners away from their traditional allegiance to the Democrats, and their strategy was successful. One aspect of that strategy was the adoption of a lot of issues that these extremely traditional Southerners wanted, thus the list I gave.
The GOP made a Faustian deal in order to gain political power. They sold their soul to a pretty unsavory bunch. I’d be thrilled if they’d just take it back.
I didn’t say it was a coincidence. I said it was not directly related.
What we are discussing here is whether racism is the extreme end of the conservative spectrum. What you claim has no bearing on that, even if true.
Even if the Republicans adopted a whole slew of positions that they did not believe in as a way of attracting Southern whites, that doesn’t mean that these positions are connected to racism, though there may be some correlation.
If Republicans started a big push to make grits the Official Food of the US as a sop to Southern Whites, there would be a correlation between holders of racist views and supporters of this push, but that wouldn’t mean that this view is connected to racism.
Although Merijeek’s point is well taken, maybe we still engage with you because we continue to believe that you’re open to rational discourse.
Boo hoo, the Southern Strategy, waah. It’s called democracy. All those millions of horrible scary racists would have voted anyway, whether their dreadfully unfashionable candidates had run as Republicans or Redneckians. At least the Republicans went after existing voters. The Dems couldn’t win with Americans, so they had to import their electorate via the 1965 Immigration Act. I guess when the government no longer serves the people, it’s time for the government to elect a new people.