The correct answer to teh question was no, the left did not make racist attacks on Condi Rice. Shodan’s links wer fatuous attempts by righties to pretend to see racist intent where none existed.
I come from a long line of people portrayed as dumb and stubborn. Run with it.
Portraying Bush as looking like a monkey only made fun of Bush. Portraying Obama and his parents as chimps insults all black people as sub human.
But this thread is about race, not your family.
Since nobody has suggested that it be illegal to characterize Obama as an ape, there’s no free speech issue here.
It depends, apparently. Coming from Sharpton, apparently not, which is what I said originally. Interestingly, “house nigga” is also OK. (I don’t know if Rall is white or not - it doesn’t seem to matter).
And of course calling a black woman a “mammy” and a shoe shine girl. That’s not racist at all - no sir.
:shrugs:
Regards,
Shodan
You don’t see so yourself that it depends upon who says it, and for what reasons? That words don’t carry context-free connotations?
Communications 101. Context is everything. But even at face value, the “apparently it’s OK!” argument is rubbish. Many African Americans hate that other African Americans use those words and expressions; they are often publicly rebuked for doing so. It’s complete cherry picking to say that so-and-so “can” say it and so-and-so “can’t.” The reality is that any public figure making racist remarks or using loaded language is going to get some blowback.
Afraid I don’t get the reference either, and “Palin assassination jokes” brings up a bunch of sites talking about her map with the crosshairs/surveyor’s marks on it, which I don’t think was intended as a joke.
There is this, talking about a “New Hampshire Democratic state lawmaker” who resigned after making a “Sarah Palin death joke,” but to find out the lawmaker’s name (and presumably, the joke) would require a back issue purchase from the Toronto Sun. A local-interest story, I assume, which ran day and night on Fox News for a few days?
Timothy Horrigan.
Well, I wouldn’t use the term personally, and I don’t even hold with the kind of identity-politics view that it’s tied to–but I don’t see “house Negro,” or variants, as racist. They describe a black person who has adopted a certain posture relative to a dominant white culture, or to a specific white power structure. Whether or not it’s fair, or useful, to use as a descriptor for some black people, I understand what it means, and it is never a commentary on black people generally.
It isn’t about Obama. That is a missile aimed at a black man, not Obama or the President. That “joke” is nothing of the sort. It is simultaneously conveying that Obama is nothing more than a black man, and subhuman at that. It isn’t a dig at him, his accomplishments, or his politics. It’s a dig at his physical race which is not acceptable. THAT is why it is the worst thing you can call a black person. It is stating they are nothing more than the product of their inferior, bestial, subhuman race and not an individual deserving of respect, rights or humanity. It’s disgusting, and totally unacceptable. Get it now?
I was answering the statement that chimp resemblance was never used to denigrate any non-Black people. It was–but I pointed out that it was historic, not current. (Well, somebody thinks it’s not in the past; guess I missed that Arby’s ad.)
The comparison is still racist when used for Obama. For Bush? Maybe it’s insulting to chimps.
When the subject of Palin assassination jokes was raised, it was about Sarah Palin posting pictures of Democratic politicians with targets on them along with maps showing where they lived. Then when somebody actually went ahead and shot one of her targets, Palin claimed that it had been intended as a joke not a serious call for assassinations.
You seem to be under the impression that i was disagreeing with you. I’m not sure where you got that idea.
No. Your explanation is incoherent and unacceptable.
You’re being willfully ignorant.
Just my inherent pugnacityexpressing itself! Sorry.
Totally imagination.She was not called cruel racist names. Nobody even brought up the lesbian thing in 8 years. It was virtually unmentioned. She was treated with respect and never showed her birth certificate.