And where is your evidence that Wright was saying this stuff for 20 years? That this stuff dominated his ministry? That this wasn’t just one small part of a much larger ministry?
This is utter CRAP. Stop comparing Jeremiah Wright to people who have spent their entire lives and careers spewing nothing but hatred. That’s not who he is, and not even close to what the full 30 years of his life and ministry represents.
I support him, too, and he’s not even my minister! And I’m white! And Jewish!
Our Constitution may not have always been as kind and embracing to Jeremiah Wright as it should have been, but one thing it’s always afforded him is FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
And we can still love and support people who say occasional controversial things. Even if we don’t always agree with those things.
Why in the hell is this so hard to grasp for some of you?
NONSENSE. You’ve been disabused of this notion multiple times, so quit repeating it as if it were true.
And I don’t expect anyone to ignore Obama’s support of Wright, I expect reasonable, intelligent people to accept his support of Wright, speech or no speech.
From David Duke to Fred Phelps. Wright’s moving up in the world.
EDIT: Honestly, how difficult is it to grasp that you can like and respect someone who may have views you disagree with? Even on this lefty-bile-spewing board, we have people on both sides of the aisle who have radically different views on subjects, but can talk about them civilly and then go out for a beer together afterward. “You’re either with me or against me” is black and white reality-ignoring rhetoric.
You can’t get over a couple sound bites taken from a few DVD’s. You and all the other people who decide not to get the facts and base what they say on a few second sound bites from a few DVD’s are completely missing the point. Frigg’in Lou Dobbs yesterday had a dumb ass look on his face because he just didn’t get it - it took 4 people with 4 differing view for Lou Dobbs to finally say, " So Obama’s speech really is going to be historic???"
I’ll ask you one question: Did you see Rev. Wright’s DVD? Try Fact Checking Barack Obama’s Church and maybe - I know it’s a tall order - but maybe you’ll garner some information that isn’t just a sound bite.
By several accounts Laura is a fairly heavy smoker. She admits to occasionally bumming one but claims that otherwise she’s quit, though almost anybody who’s ever quit smoking and then relapsed can tell you that it was from bumming “just one” that they started back. She’s never photographed with one however.
Well, admittedly, it was just on my way in to work earlier today. On the way home I got a good example of some right wing stuff pretty easily, so I’ll concede that the AM talk show take will use this as the open ticket to go racial (not racist necessarily) That’s okay, it’s what they do. Perversely enough those attempts may help Obama some. Get it out of the way now and give the Democrats a common enemy. It’ll only help rally the troops around Obama.
Well, pardon me, but I’m not after 15 minutes of fame.
I’m in a thread here on the Dope, and you’re the person who brought in a bullshit argument that had long been dispensed with. I don’t care where it came from; you’ve made it your own. You apparently wish to evade responsibility for your words. I am not surprised.
You have a fair point here. I do tend to just turn the channel or turn off the TV when anyone gets into that manipulative cadence. I’ve seen Obama start to go down that road a few times and I just say tune out. I find it disappointing and annoying that someone who I could listen to all day for his intelligence and oratory skills reverts back to that nonsense.
No, that’s not what I mean. That is a great speech. Great!!! It is not that a speech cannot have a cadence, but when the cadence is intended to provide the power the words should provide.
I’ve slung shit at no one, if you can read. I’ve said flattering things about Obama and I stand by them. I’ve even stated that if terrorism was not the issue it is that he would have had my vote. I simply disagree with you that his association for 20 years with a man of that ilk matters. But please do muster up any desire on my account.
This is actually humorous, albeit unintentionally. And I’m probably at fault for the miscommunication. By “A percent wold be problematic” I did not mean that any—even one percent—would be problematic. I meant that it would be difficult to arrive at a percent. I think the rest of that post conveys my position.
And for the record, my support for McCain is tepid at best. I’m a fan of the man’s backbone and demeanor, not his politics so much.
Don’t know of you saw this but check out this video of one of Rev. Wright’s brethren at his church. Shed a little light on what life is like on any given sunday at Trinity. Perhaps you’ll garner nothing from this link, or perhaps you’ll see war mongering hate is not something Obama was exposed to for 20 years.
Watched it. I’m not impressed. She had no mention of Wright, who is the issue. And I have no doubt that there are sweet white Jewish women who hold the same views Wright does. I don’t know what you think that video proves. But I’d say “nothing”.
