Try to put aside the inflammatory clips and just look at the churches of which each candidate is a member. And trying not to draw equivalencies between other more tangential religious figures who support each… what can we learn about a candidate based on their church of choice?
We can infer (not really learn) that an upper middle class whitew guy is liable to chhose to worship at a local church in his predominantly white, upper middle class neighborhood and an upper middle class black guy who lives in a predominantly black neighborhood of mixed incomes will choose to worship at a local church in his neighborhood.
If you have a point to debate, What the … !!!, why don’t you post it since you seem to have forgotten to include it in your OP?
There could be some problems for Obama with the UCC’s support of same sex marriage. The UCC is also actively opposing the war in Iraq. There may also be some people still ticked off about the bouncer ads the UCC ran a couple of years ago.
At least the stupid IRS case was resolved in the UCC’s favor. That was the so-called controversy about Obama making political comments at the UCC general synod.
I think we can learn that McCain would be a better president because if he gets assassinated, he will rise from his own ashes while Obama will go to Heaven to be united with his Lord.
That McCain belongs to a church that supports conservative social prinicpals befitting a guy who is conservative and that Obama belongs to a church that supports liberal social principals as befits a guy who is a liberal.
That this is shocking should really come as no surprise. I suspect the surprise is from people who have become convinces that all Christians are conservatives and liberals are uniformly anti-religious. However, there are liberal religious traditions as well and plenty of very religious liberals - I belong to a liberal congregation that’s quadupled in size in the last ten years - and has a lot of very active, and very spiritual, members.
ETA: I would be far more shocked - and less likely to vote for EITHER if McCain was a member of the UCC and Obama a conservative Baptist (there are liberal Baptists) - because then their faith would reflect inconsistantly on their politics.
Church membership says nothing about the candidate. Nixon was a Quaker, for God’s sake.
For what it’s worth, though, McCain’s pastor – that Parslee dude – has said some pretty vile and bigoted things – much more offensive than Wright, in my opinion.
Thanks for noticing… you’d think a Moderator would read more closely.
If you would prefer a different question… what would an average, moderate voter think of a candidate who attends (among other things):
A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.
Forget conservatives and liberals… how are the moderates going to react?
In a normal year? Moderates might react predictably and dissapointingly as usual. They would rather have a beer with McCain’s church. Which is “McCain’s Church” in the same way that Crawford is “George W. Bush’s Ranch”.
But in this environment?
I don’t know, honestly. But I think they might not react the way that you want them to.
Well as I have stated here several times I am a moderate and this issue has zero reaction from me. Most moderates are not very religious in general and I doubt this will have much play with them/us. In my opinion the only play it will have is if one side can convince the other that there is a bogeyman here, when there clearly is not.