Americans, including progressives, seem to want a dose of populism, though. American voters want to break stuff, which is why they voted for a ‘break stuff’ president.
I think either Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders would have beat Trump in 2016, and I think either one would beat him in 2020 despite their age.
So much is wrong in that, but I’ll just address the “corrupt wife” thing–for folks who haven’t been following along, this is a bizarre story that’s been promoted primarily by Republicans in Vermont (including one of Trump’s campaign officials). There is an investigation, but to just call her “corrupt” is at this point a ridiculous thing to do.
The vanity campaign bullshit is self-evidently bullshit, so I’ll let that one lie.
All that said, I don’t think Sanders is the right guy to run this time.
Sanders won’t run as a third party, because he’s not an idiot, and he values getting policies enacted over his own personal power, and he knows exactly what effect his running as a third party would have.
Personally, I think that Hickenlooper is the front-runner right now. I’m not certain that it’ll be him, but he’s the guy to beat. And the fact that he wasn’t invited to one of these meetings with Obama tells me that the meetings weren’t with prospective candidates.
Name recognition means nothing at this stage. Whoever ends up being the candidate will have all the name recognition they need, just by virtue of being the candidate.
He’s learned a lot in the last year or so, then.
Yes, and that’s all this thread, or any other such discussion, is really about at this stage.
Both Obama and (Bill) Clinton gave prominent speeches at the conventions before the ones they were nominated at so they had plenty of in-party exposure and a bit of an intro to folks that follow politics.
That settles it. The nominee will be Khizr Khan.
The speech roundup from the 2016 convention, for reference.
How do you support that conclusion when Hillary won the popular vote despite all her real and imagined baggage?
Or are you suggesting that she’s somehow poisoned the well for women candidates for the next few election cycles?
I agree on both counts.
A few comments.
Sanders will be how old in 2020? He might not even live out his first term if elected? The DNC played dirty politics against Sanders
Warren has no interest in running, she’s a loud mouth who likely fabricated her ancestry.
Biden passed in 2016, he too is old.
Mitch Landrieu. A mayor a mid sized city from the South? No chance, though he is an interesting guy. I have seen him speak.
General Eric Holder - An attorney general who acted and spoke before the facts?
The other names, I do not know or have only heard of in name before.
That’s what you call a weak bench. The primaries will be interesting
It is looking more like this is actually more about setting up a support team than vetting actual nominees.
That said, who would all of you like to be seen put forward as viable candidates?
Obama’s 2004 speech raised the roof and is one of the best political speeches of all time. But, Bill Clinton was mocked for his overly long nominating speech for Dukakis at the 88 convention. I still happily voted for Clinton in the 1992 general election.
Biden/Booker 2020!
As Delaware goes, so goes New Jersey.
My quatloos are on Hickelooper/Duckworth.
Mayor of South Bend ? No love for Altoona mayor?
Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper. Everyone loves that guy. He is a nerd, but he also started on of the first brewpubs in the country. He doesn’t have a lot of international experience, but he’s a very smart guy.
Didn’t see he’d been mentioned a couple of times already.
He probably has to take an intermediate step (Senator or Governor) first, and there’s the Massachusetts Fatigue factor to consider, but Rep. Seth Moulton (MA-6) is an impressive man.
Come now - it so obviously should be Popovich/Kerr. Anything else is virtually unthinkable :).