I am reminded of that line from The Art of War: “Victorious warriors win first, then go to war. Defeated warriors go to war first, then seek to win.”
Bernie has kind of already won. The Dem primary debate is mostly about how much of a Bernie to be. Even if he doesn’t get the nom, his influence over the platform won’t go away.
I’ll hold you to this.
If he doesn’t become President I’ll vote independent for rest of my life.
So you’re as much a Democrat as Sanders.
Hey, how 'bout all us Democrats get together and re-elect Trump by splitting our vote and sniping at our fellow Dems?
Bottom line should be that no matter who the Dems choose as the nominee, we turn out 100% for the nominee. Period.
Two term Trump is just something democracy can’t risk.
And Democrats will continue to not give a shit about your opinion. See how that works?
and thats why you lost a thousand seats. :smack:
Trump is the consequence of a incompetent corporate Democratic party, and the 40+ year olds who vote weak candidates into office.
And that’s why Bernie lost to Clinton. And is losing again.
You’re demanding that people who disagree with you admit they were wrong if you’re proven correct. Instead of agreeing to follow suit, you instead threaten to take your ball and go home if you’re wrong.
Again, why should I, or the Democratic Party, care what an unfaithful “ally” cares about? If your only response to not getting everything YOU want, you whinge and cry, instead of figuring out how to get at least SOMETHING.
I would wager I want a majority of the things you do. I just refuse to deify an old white dude to get it, and that upsets you. So you rant and rave and complain about the very system your Chosen One is attempting to abuse to gain power. I point out it’s a ridiculous assumption that Democrats should blindly support an Independent attempting to subvert a political party to his hunger for power. You continue to complain.
And we both get Trump. Thanks for that.
And she couldn’t win. How is Bernie, who didn’t even come close to her votes in the primary, supposed to do it?
Could I get a cite for that? I tried looking for it and only found this: Obama’s First Retrospective Job Approval Rating Is 63% from Feb. 2018. In that poll, Obama is 1% ahead of Bill Clinton.
If his Democratic approval rating is that high, the rest of the country must have rated him very low for the overall number to balance out like that. Either that, or the polls differed a lot. It could be that the methodology differed a lot as well.
Then why not Warren too? She’s Bernie Sanders, but less honest.
Cats from Kitty Kornered: “Ha ha haaa.”
QFT. Not even a DINO if it’s not a presidential election. Can they ban him from running as a Democrat if he’s not registered as one?
They should have been stopping his games in Vermont. Running in the Democratic primary then refusing the nomination, then the Democrats not finding a replacement candidate. I guess he’s got them by the balls as long as the Senate is close to 50-50 because they don’t want to risk a GOP win in a three way race
Bold move! Just like the rule change they passed requiring candidates to declare themselves Democrats. That really slowed him down.
Right now I wish my username was Cotton
If Sanders was Buttigieg’s age, it might be one thing. This election is his swan song. No one wanted to hear from Nader in 2008 or Jesse Jackson in 1992. Even if Bernie stays in the Senate for a few more years, he’ll be basically irrelevant and probably back to doing call in shows for left wing college radio stations as he did in the 1990s.