This. The “accountability” argument is a complete scam.
How is the West Bank ever going to have a Jewish majority?
For the most part because the Jews living there tend to have very high fertility.
350,000 Jews to 2.3 million Arabs . . . it’s gonna take a couple centuries at least to outbreed them.
I would guess it’s a lot quicker than that. The fertility of some of these Jewish settlements is shockingly high.
Have you the slightest idea what the fertility rates are like for the Palestinians?
Sure, and they are plummeting. Just last year the Jewish fertility rate exceeded the Arab fertility rate in Jerusalem.
Even in Israel proper, demographics turned the corner about 8 years ago:
Since, then the percentage of Jewish births has been steadily rising.
Ah yes, the “fertility rates”… finally, a thread takes a turn more in synch with BBQ norms.
What I’d like to find out is for someone to report on the “bloodshed” that Avdigar “promised” as a consequence of a Palestinian state bid at UN. You know those Pale… pardon me, Arabs, every time they submit UN bid for statehood, they like to spill some blood.
Looks like it went same as 10 year 9/11 attack - heavy on promotion, light on delivery.
As I Jew I know I always find it convincing when people (and I use the term very losely in your case) compare the world’s only Jewish state to a form of pollution.
:rolleyes:
You haven’t shown any evidence that the Arab birthrate in Israel/Palestine is lower than the Jewish birthrate.
Have you ever been to Israel, because I think any Israeli would find such a suggestion laughable.
If you don’t believe me, ask any of the Israelis on this site.
I have said it before, and I’ll say it again:
Criticizing Israel does not make someone an anti-Semite.
Condemning the concept of Zionism does not make someone an anti-Semite.
Being critical of Judaism, as a religion, does not make someone an anti-Semite.
However: when someone obsessively and viciously attacks Israel with rhetoric like “cancer,” “parasite,” “monster”, “genocidal” and other such terms - and never condemns any other country in the same manner - singling out Israel and Israel alone for extremely negative and emotional condemnation - I really have no choice but to think that person is motivated by anti-Semitism.
Because I have never, ever, ever encountered anyone who singled out any one other country in the world for the same kind of criticism.
It’s really not any different from, say, an office manager who relentlessly criticizes the only Jewish (or black, or gay, or whatever) employee - and only that one employee - when everyone else in the office is making the exact same mistakes.
This statement indicates a complete separation from reality.
Several of the deposed tyrants were quite willing to work with Israel from a Realpolitik perspective (while keeping up a facade of sternly demanding that the Israelis act differently). Even al-Assad, of Syria, was working with Israel in clandestine meetings to resolve their ongoing border dispute–at least until GWB decided to include Syria in his silly “Axis of Evil” speech.
The majority of the replacement regimes, acting to stay ahead of constituencies that have spent the last 60+ years nursing on a steady stream of anti-Israeli, (and often anti-Jewish) rhetoric, are more likely to be openly hostile to Israel.
Unless you have a magic way to reverse more than six decades of anti-Israeli polemics among the Arab proletariat, there is no near future possibility that the new regimes will be less hostile to Israel.
Finding a way to resolve the Palestinian issue will lessen some of that ill will, but it will not be the result of simply proclaiming a Palestinian state that has no defined borders and is, itself, frequently at the edge of civil war.
GWB didn’t mention Syria in his “Axis of Evil” speech.
You’re right. I confused the Axis of Evil with UN Ambassador Bolton’s tie-in of Syria and a couple of other countries as adjuncts to the Axis of Evil.
Still, the condemnation issued from the same administration and prior to that condemnation, al-Assad was talking (covertly) with Israel.
So, if time and demographics are on the Jews’ side, why should Israel not just annex the West Bank (and give Israeli citizenship to its Arabs) now?
I think that would be a good idea. But would the Arabs themselves accept it? I’m under the impression that they would resent the idea of Israel claiming their land (Arab land) as Israeli land.
I have no idea what your point is here. But generally speaking your posts don’t seem all that coherent to me.
First things first: Please quote, cite, and link this “promise.”
That’s not exactly what I am claiming, but let me ask you this:
Do you agree that the percentage of Jewish births in Israel has been rising steadily for the last 8 years or so?
Because the numbers aren’t there yet, i.e. there wouldn’t be a solid Jewish majority in the expanded state of Israel.
At present there are 5.7 million Israeli Jews (Arab citizens make up 20% of the population). The Arab population of the WB is only 2.3 million. Jews would still be in a majority in a united Palestine. At least, they would be at first.