That explains why you attack the source so often in your arguments.
Combining a statement that nobody who’s serious questions Obama’s birth certificate with a question about Obama’s birth certificate. You’re making this too easy.
It was an open secret that Clinton was a serial adulterer when he was running for President. The only question was which specific women he had affairs with. You’d think a guy with degrees in political science and history would have heard about all this before 1998.
'tweren’t even that secret. Gennifer Flowers, and all.
There was even a double-secret Sixty Minutes interview about it early in 1992, as I recall. 
Clinton didn’t become president until January 1993, so they were obviously flying under the radar by running with that interview so early. I mean, who could possibly be paying attention to an interview of a nobody like Clinton nearly a year before he became president? It just goes to show you how devious the Clintons and the Liberal Media really are.
That’s the open part. What kept it technically a secret was Clinton never admitted the accusations were true.
Yup, he could talk about all the times he voted present.
Or when he voted for a bill to allow aborted babies to die in closets.
The fact is, as a State Senator, the man was pretty much a non-entity. Hell, I pay about as much attention to State Politics here as a normal person can stand (It’s really depressing) and I never heard of this tool before 2004.
The only reason we’re stuck with him now is the media created him. Otherwise, we’d have Blair Hull in his second term doing a respectable job as Senator.
Oh, yeah, and he was running against McCain, a guy with Decades of accomplishment in Congress and the Military.
Go back to my original statement, where I specifically listed Webb Hubbel. I can also talk about the McDougals, that clown who collected 900 FBI files on prominant Republicans, and what the hell, they tried to call poor Monica a “stalker” and such until she came up with the stained dress. (Oooops).
First, they don’t WANT to find dirt on Obama. And when something come up, they downplay it, like old Jeremiah Wright.
Second , Jeri Ryan didn’t come forward. She fought to keep those records sealed, too. (Probably because she was lying her ass off and the judge didn’t believe her.) The Chicago Media SUED to get access to those records.
So they sued to get his divorce records, and dug up Blair Hull’s dirt, but oddly, we never heard about Jeremiah Wright and his crazy anti-American BS, which Obama apparently never heard in church. Really.
Well, it would be if you comprehended simple English. I said no one was making stuff up about his birth certificate. He refused to release it until Trump called him on it. No one mainstream would actually touch the issue, and frankly it’s kind of irrelevent, because if he had been born in Kenya, he’d still be an eligible citizen through his mother.
But you jokers act like this was a plot hatched in the RNC or something.
Again, the issue was not just his being an “adulterer”. Jones accused him of unwanted sexual advances. (Anyone want to still claim she was lying?) So did several other women. That’s not just having an affair. He then engaged in a plot to suborn perjury and hide evidence.
It’s a double standard. Why did it take until 1998 for this to boil to the surface. If it was an “open secret” he has an issue here, then why was every woman who came forward immediately savaged in the press?
He’s not respected. I think that both Republicans and Democrats in this state will just be happy to see this guy go away.
Let’s not forget, this is a guy who locked up reporters for not saying incriminating stuff about people he was after. Great day for freedom.
Prosecutors don’t lock people up. A few reporters spent time in jail for contempt of court for refusing to divulge sources. Fitzgerald did support that, but reporters have done jail time for contempt before and it will happen as long as there are conflicts between prosecutors and members of the press. Anyway we’re now drifting off the subject of scandals and Obama.
“No one is making stuff up about his birth certificate.” Interesting. Are you saying there were no birth certificate stories out there? Or are you saying they’re not made up because they’re true?
And Donald Trump was seeking the Republican presidential nomination when he “called him on it”. Sarah Palin and Tom Tancredo also have joined in. So Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates aren’t mainstream?
I like Tancredo’s new spin on this. Obama’s release of his birth certificate was some kind of plot to make Republicans look like nuts. Well, duh, of course it was. And the Republicans made it possible by acting like nuts. If the Republicans had been acting intelligently, they wouldn’t have handed Obama this golden opportunity to embarass them.
Was it a lot?
Ah, the Aborted Baby Closet Bill. I wager there there were some nuances to it.
So? Had you “heard” of Clinton before 1988? Of Bush43 before 1996?
I daresay every president has some favorable circumstances in his past which in hindsight looks contrived or unlikely. Heck, your first president could have been Joshua Fry.
But unfortunately for McCain (and indeed for any Republican candidate in the near future), a significant branch of the party has demands that are not shared by the country. In order to appease this branch and secure the nomination, McCain had to sacrifice the goodwill of the mainstream and thus sacrifice the election.
Basically, I’m unmoved by these “the media made him” arguments. Fox News is squarely on the Republican side and if they’re not in “the media”, then I’ll need a better definition of “the media.”
“Media” is a plural noun. In other words, FoxNews is not “the” media. “The media” includes ABC, CBS, MSNBC, PBS, the New York Times, The LA Times, the Boston Globe, NBC, all of whom are solidly on the liberal side.
Which partially explains why Obama has not had a Lewinsky-sized scandal (yet). Most of the MSM wants rather badly to look the other way on anything that may embarass Obama, and try to maximize whatever they can find or manufacture to use against the GOP and its’ candidates. See Holder, Eric. Compare and contrast to Burkett, Bill.
Regards,
Shodan
Keep sayin’ it and some significant number of people will believe it. If nothing else, I grudgingly admire the dedication and discipline.
Read closer. There’s the crucial word “in” in my original statement. Besides, Fox News regularly brags (or did, anyway - I haven’t been keeping track lately) that they’re the most watched.
Bullshit. Utter unmitigated bullshit. You seriously think NBC or anyone else would hesitate to run a juicy and verified presidential story, on any president?
What about them? Holder may have done some questionable things, Burkett probably did (though I don’t expect either will ever admit it). I’m not aware of any media cover-up regarding Holder and Burkett might actually be a useful object lesson - don’t jump on a presidential story without solid verification.
This is the rare occasion when we agree. She is exceptionally fit and may even have an inch or two of reach on him. I sure wouldn’t want to go up against her.
On the other hand, Obama is pretty fit, too, as presidents go. Most presidents tend to be old men.
They are definitely the youngest, fittest couple to occupy the White House in my lifetime, and I’m pretty confident they share a very good sex life.
(JFK and Jackie might have been contenders, but he had that bad back.)
Actually, on Town Hall they call her “The First Wookie”.
Most of those on Town Hall probably couldn’t get a date in a women’s prison wearing a jetpack…