I was given a Warning for alleged hijacking in the Leave the Birth Rate Alone thread, which I find nonsensical and hypocritical. In a thread about attempts to change the birth rate causing harm, the fact that the white nationalists are very prominent in being among the pro-natalists is very relevant. At the same time the attempts of Romania and China to shift the birth rate were also brought up as negative examples without being moderated.
It follows a pattern of what I can only interpret as politically biased moderation, given that my previous Warning was for “saying mean things about Trump”, and now it’s “saying mean things about white nationalists”. Criticisms of the far right getting infracted while criticisms of the left (like of Romania and China above) being let slide are IMHO examples of the board’s longstanding tendency to shield the Right at the expense of everyone else, rather than any attempt at neutral moderation.
I will repeat what I said to you in the PM you sent to us, making the same objections:
Your views here are not objective. You drag your hobby horses into nearly every topic you reply to. They are frequently not relevant to the topic at hand.
In the instant moderation, it’s quite a boot strap to attempt to tie white nationalism to actual national policies for controlling birth rates. You offered not a single citation, just your opinion, and expect others to simply accept it as true. To discuss it further would absolutely have been a hijack. Again.
You make many good posts, but too often, you pay zero attention to the topic to which you are responding. It’s become a real problem. We have come to feel your efforts to hijack threads now are deliberate. We aren’t going to tolerate it.
Not to junior-mod, but when I made that first initial post, Der Trihs, I didn’t mention race. I was only talking about how widespread euthanasia of old people would be the only way the pro-natalists could get the contradictory young-and-high-birth-rate-and-small population they demand. In hindsight, it probably wasn’t a good angle for me to delve into, but it wasn’t racial or political, only age-centered. I think when you mentioned genocide of race, that’s when the mods thought you were taking it off-topic.
Nobody asked, presumably because it’s a well known issue that’s come up before, including in the older thread about increasing the birth rate. A few seconds of google and there you go.
As was pointed out by @ParallelLines in the PM exchange:
The OP is trying to have an accurate discussion about birthrates including internal and external (often governmental) efforts to influence the birthrate.
What White Christian Nationalists want or are trying to do is irrelevant to the thread topic as it was posed. If you feel this effort is being successfully sponsored by the US government, perhaps you should have included the cite, not expected everyone else to find it. Your cite may have changed my mind about whether to moderate your post. But based solely on what you posted, it just looks like another one of your many tangents thrown into whatever thread you happen to be posting in. It’s not for us or anyone else to do “a few seconds of google” on your behalf.
Again, nobody asked, and it’s a well known issue and even talked about in the related thread. And it didn’t even occur to me that anyone could consider it off topic when it was so very much on-topic.
I didn’t account for motivated reasoning on part of the moderation.
The SDMB has always been notorious for bending over backwards to placate the Right, which both drove off a lot of people and even failed at that. Since right wingers demand complete submission and nothing short of the forum going full Nazi would make them happy, all it does is alienate both sides.
The SDMB has always been notorious for bending over backwards to placate the Right, which both drove off a lot of people and even failed at that.
I don’t see that at all. On the political right, I can think of Starving Artist, ClothaHump, LinusK, WillFarnaby, TimRMortiss, Scumpup, etc. who got banned. HurricaneDitka, octopus, Shodan, Steophan are gone too. Bone quit and left. We don’t see OMG A Black Conservative staying here either.
The only people on the political left I can think of who got banned were Budget Player Cadet and Chingon.
I don’t think the moderators are modding in favor of the right; they’re pretty evenhanded. And it’s largely been conservatives leaving.
But anyhow, I digress, probably getting off topic. Just replying to the last post.
People less right wing would get banned long before them.
I don’t think so. Budget Player Cadet got 17 warnings and 2 suspensions before being banned. That’s a pretty long leash for a liberal-progressive Doper.