Yeah, yeah. I’m terribly sorry there weren’t any tits in this comic. Perhaps you can find solace in 99% of the rest of popular media to make up for it.
A note from the artist:
I’m trying to find some sense in this comment but failing.
Do you think the straight guys would find the strip better if the punchline was “… and then the female gets [quasi or not so quasi-] raped”? Because I can’t speak for all straight guys here but I wouldn’t find that inherently funny, and after about the 10th strip, I would find it seriously old.
So not really consensual gay sex is in questionable taste but not really consensual fighting is okey dokey?
Some people see oglaf as a break from the heteronormativity rampant in mainstream comics, television and print media. Oglaf doesn’t bill itself as a comic for gay men, so the fact that the author includes a lot of gay content is seen as refreshing and when people complain that there’s not enough sexy females as sexy males, well, now they have a little taste of what the rest of us see on a daily basis. The rapeyness, I don’t think, was what he was talking about.
Jeebus I never would have thought the point being made now and a few weeks back by myself and others is really that hard to understand.
The point is not that it is gay sex
The point is not that it is non-consensual or near non-consensual sex.
The point is not that it is in questionable taste. Hell, bucketloads of jokes are funny precisely because they are in questionable taste.
The point is twofold.
1/ “…and then they had gay sex” is not that funny. It can be in the right context, but it isn’t screamingly inherently funny to the extent that it can, on its own, support a joke as a matter of course.
2/ While someone as talented as Trudy Cooper can sometimes make “… and then they had gay sex” funny to some extent, when the trope is used continually, it gets old.
Is not understanding this really that important?
Neither myself nor I think Grumman have ever said this. I haven’t checked back beyond a few pages for Grumman, so maybe he said it earlier. I don’t think so though.
Ok, well in that case I’d suggest you find a webcomic artist who can meet your comedy threshold.
Just looking at my previous post in this thread would show that you’re way off target. Three of the four comics I praised there have no tits, and the fourth has a naked couple but the joke was about a particular style of bad writing.
Is it gay fighting?
Y’know, those guys seem awfully into it, for it being supposedly non-consensual. I mean, there’s fucking, and then there’s fucking. I certainly get the impression that they’re not exactly adverse to it, and they definitely seem to prefer it to the fighting.
Tengu, shouldn’t the myrmillo be wearing scale armor?
And I’m not specifically familiar with the gesture the loser is making, but from context, it appears to be an acknowledgment of defeat.
Nope, like most gladiator types, the myrmillo fought barechested.
Although checking my memory on that, the helmet should have a face guard, and the arm guard isn’t completely right, either.
Still, even with those errors, it’s a pretty solid match, well within the realm of ‘artistic licence’.
as I’ve learned from Encore’s Spartacus, it means the down Gladiator is asking for mercy.
It’s so solid a match, in fact, that the first panel might be a reference to this painting: File:Jean-Leon Gerome Pollice Verso.jpg - Wikipedia
Note the hand gesture by the vanquished retiarius.
Yes, and it was already tedious back then. It would be nice if we don’t have to hear about it ever time there’s more than one dick on panel at a time.
This is bullshit on so many different levels.
First of all, this strip is chock-fucking-full of non-consensual sex. Here’s a man raping a statue. Here’s the thief raping two monks. Here’s one about a woman who feels compelled to engage in a sex act she thinks will kill her. Or, there’s virtually every comic that Mistress has ever appeared in: Here’s the Mistress about to rape an assassin to death. Here’s Mistress murdering her previous apprentice by raping him with a wand of fireballs. Note the hilarious begging for his life in that one! Here Mistress murders two people by locking them in a chest and leaving them in the sun, because they weren’t sufficiently hot when they fucked. Pretty sure that nubile young chick isn’t sucking the wrinkly old guy’s cock because she wants to. That one is, of course, in Mistress’s tower.
And just because I’m feeling vindictive, there’s the rape spider.
And that’s leaving out all the borderline stuff around consent and misrepresentation.
But that’s not what gets called out. This is. This is supposed to be non-consensual? I fully appreciate that straight guys aren’t very interested in seeing two dudes fuck, but you should at least glance at the panel before you start criticizing it. Gay sex pro-tip: when you’re craning your neck over your shoulder so you can tongue kiss the guy fucking you in the ass, you probably aren’t being raped.
It’s a porn comic. Its goal isn’t just to be funny. It’s also supposed to be sexy. The comic frequently uses sex to prop up a less than stellar joke. I’m not saying the fact that you only complain when it’s propped up by gay sex makes you a big ol’ 'phobe. But how about a little self-awareness, here? You don’t mind a weak joke in a comic with good heterosexual sexual imagery. Stop pissing in our cornflakes when she gives some fan service to folks on the team.
Your post is just weird. I say my complaint is not that it is gay sex or that it is non-consensual or near non-consensual sex. Then you go to great efforts to dredge up links showing me that complaining about gay sex or non-consensual or near non-consensual sex would be irrational, which is what I just said I wasn’t doing.
Look Miller I won’t bother posting on the subject again. To save time, you just make a load of crap up about what for some bizarre reason you are absolutely determined to believe is my point despite all evidence, attribute it to me, and complain about it, OK? It’ll save me time, and your posts will be the same either way.
I totally mangled this sentence in my head when I read it, and came away with exactly the opposite meaning. Sorry, entirely my bad. That was an argument that should have more properly been addressed to Grumman, not you.
The last paragraph of my post stands, though. This is a sex comic. Sometimes it uses sex to set up the joke, and sometimes it uses a joke to set up some sex. Saying that “…and then they had gay sex!” is a weak punchline misses the point of the comic, which is not “Gay sex is funny,” but “Gay sex is hot.”
What’s aggravating is that the comic does this with straight sex, as well, but you’re not complaining about that. You’re complaining exclusively about the gay fan service. The quality of this comic is not predicated on its ability to appeal to an exclusively heterosexual libido.
Mmm. Could well be, since that painting helped cement the idea that the thumbs down gesture means death. (For those who’ve done little reading about gladiators: It’s actually far from clear - or, at least it was when the last research I’ve read about was done - just what the gestures used to indicate a fallen gladiator’s fate were. Death coulda been thumbs down. Or it coulda been thumbs up. Might have been thumbs sideways. There’s a good chance it was a closed fist with the fingers curled around the thumb. Nobody’s sure, so everyone who wanted to show as gladiatorial combat had to decide for themselves before the popular belief decided on thumbs down, and the shorthand became easy, but also unavoidable.)
Straight Male / I LOLed. Not seeing the problem here.
I thought it was funny. It was sort of two jokes in one! I.e., the discovery that the emperor can do any hand gesture he wants and that he likes to see guys boning.