I actually think that was more of a Pandora’s Box sort of punishment, hence the curious comment. I don’t think she actually killed them. But still XD your point still stands.
I don’t think the joke is about gay sex (consensual or not) at all.
This is about the emperor who invented porn.
The fact that the persons in the arena happened to be both guys when he thought up the idea is purely a coincidence.
I shouldn’t argue with a pro, but when you’re a defeated gladiator taking it up the ass as the price of your life, you do as you’re fucking well told. :dubious:
Fair enough, we all have a brain fade every now and again.
I don’t agree. As to your first paragraph, my complaint has never been about strips using a joke to set up sex. They are about strips where the joke is that non-consensual or near non consensual sex happens. There is no other joke. Such strips are just not that funny. They can be a bit funny, but after the umpteenth time it gets old.
And as to your second paragraph, it’s just total shit that you made up. Firstly, my original whinge was that the joke that was getting old was “man gets it in ass” as a punchline. Often the person giving was a woman. Secondly, the comic isn’t even handed. And not by accident but because that is the clear editorial decision made by Trudy Cooper. Go read post #910 and read the cite there linked. The short version is that she says woman-as-victim would be “bleak and horrible” but man-as-victim is funny.
You are pushing your barrow up a very steep hill when you start attempting to suggest that I’m biased and the strip is even handed when the author of the strip explicitly says to the contrary.
Princhester, why don’t you find a different, free web comic to read?
You know who push barrows? Gardeners, that’s who.
Ah, so your problem isn’t gay sex, its sex where the man is in the submissive role?
Fair enough, but that doesn’t alter the essential nature of my argument. This comic has two goals: be funny, and be sexy. Sometimes it’s more funny than sexy, sometimes its more sexy than funny. The problem is, when a comic is more sexy than funny, but sexy in a way that doesn’t appeal to you personally, you react to it as if it’s a failed funny comic, when in fact it’s a successful sexy comic intended for a different audience than yourself.
I don’t really care what the author says. I’m more interested in what the comic says. But for the record, I never argued that the comic was even handed. It’s pornography, which by its nature, tends to reflect the sexual preferences of its creator. Judging by the content of this comic, the artist has a real thing for men taking it up the ass. If male ass-sex isn’t your thing, you’re frequently going to find yourself bored reading this comic, since male ass-sex is one of its major themes. I think that’s just something you need to come to terms with if you’re going to read this comic.
Insofar as I have a problem it is that you are absolutely fricken determined to assume that my problem is something other than what I have repeatedly explained it to be. How about you just read my posts and take them at face value? My problem is repeated use of a not very funny punchline. That’s it. Period. Full stop.
There are any number of jokes about gay sex and/or about man in submissive role which are funny. However, the mere fact that a man has gay or submissive sex, I don’t think is that intrinsically funny. Frankly, I don’t know why you are still arguing on this point, since you seem subsequently to accept that the strips in question aren’t funny, but argue that they are instead sexy. Which is fine and no doubt true but doesn’t alter the fact they aren’t funny. Which if you’ll recall, is all I ever said in the first place.
As to the rest of your theory, that Cooper is going for sexy and I’m just not getting it because I’m not into gay sex, you’re wrong. Go read that interview linked off that post above. She’s going for funny. My problem is simply that I don’t think that one of her favourite punchlines is that funny particularly when repeated over and over.
As to the even handed thing, you’ve lost the thread of the argument: you implied that my bias was apparent because I didn’t complain about Oglaf “women-as-sexual-victim” strips. But this is nonsense because the strip isn’t even handed enough for such strips to exist for well documented reasons. So your point had no factual basis and was invalid. If Cooper repeatedly did strips where the punchline was “and then woman got fucked” I would find it just as (un)funny and complain exactly the same way.
And **Knorf **and others: sure there is that option but I’m hopeful because Cooper can produce seriously witty stuff. I just think that her default option joke when she can’t think of anything better is getting old.
The punchline does come up a lot during the course of the strips, but I really always thought of it more as riffing on a theme than kicking a dead horse. It’s been so integrated throughout that it never bothered me. My wife and I feel this was actually one of the better instance of it. ![]()
I agree.
Awww, Grier missed out on a party. It would’ve been fun!
I didn’t understand todays strip at all. Monks she apparently does not know or like want to give her a surprise party?
I don’t get it either.
Context:
http://oglaf.com/roguearsenal/
Well, they thought she’d have fun, but they know she hates fun, so the only way to entice her to come to the party, they thought, was by suggesting it was a fun-free zone.
It’s very layered.
The freckled monk is the same one driving the cart when she had her trial by fuck with Vanka the one-eyed thief.
Speaking of which… The new one is up.
Yeah, and I don’t get it at all.
I don’t get it either, but I got a feeling it’s a new multi-parter like the virginity vampire storyline.