OK, how 'bout the GoGos?

We discussed the Bangles in another thread, what do we think about the Go Gos?

I think Belinda Carlyle certainly has the hot lead singer thing covered.

Personally, I think that musically and musicianship-wise the Bangles were the superior band. I was, at the time, into the hard rock arena bands and the Bangles had a little edge and crunch that overlapped into that territory. The Go Gos on the other hand seemed much more pop-top 40 to me at the time.
My understanding is that the GGs were really into the R&R lifestyle but their songs don’t seem to reflect that.
I was never a big fan so enlighten me if I’m missing something.

Belinda is light-years better looking than Suzanna, so there’s that. I think the Go-Gos were better by every metric imaginable.

“light years”…
“every metric imaginable”

I’m sensing that perhaps our tastes may differ somewhat.
:wink:

The Go-Go’s definitely had the musical chops.
They wrote their own music and played their own instruments, a legit band even if you weren’t a fan of their music.
Apparently they had roots in punk and I knew a couple guys who claimed to see them in LA before they formed the line up that got them famous and made the transformation to a more pop sound. They said it was a good band. Both those guys are gone now (RIP) so I can’t really ask them about it.

“Twisted, crazy, drug addict sex fiends” according to former Go-Go Janet Wiedlin ;). They came out of the LA punk scene and apparently got into music at least partially for the same reason so many teenage boys do - to get laid a lot. Their earliest, more amateurish music was aparently rather rougher, they smoothed off the hard edges to achieve pop success.

By contrast the seemingly slightly harder-rocking Bangles were apparently pretty mellow off stage.

Can’t judge the music, but I think the Bangles had better marketing.

I have a signed copy of the Go=Gos first LP. The first pressing, in fact, with the reversed colors. Benefits of working in a record store when they first hit it big.

I’m on Team River Hippie rather than Team Silenus on this issue.

I’ve owned albums by both bands but found myself listening to my Bangles albums a whole lot more.

I thought Janet Wiedlin was very cute, but Belinda Carlisle had the ugliest nose in showbiz.

Carlyle had one of the most successful celebrity makeovers I’ve ever seen. Of course she wasn’t repulsive or anything before they hit it big - she was your typical punk rock girl, with a skin and a figure that said she smoked a lot, ate crappy food, wore whatever she thought was cool. She was an 80s Barbie (Valley Girl edition) when they finished and you’d never think she’d looked different.

Well, The Go-Gos had Joan of Arc. That’s really got to count for something.
(I always had more of a thing for Jane than for Belinda.)

Hit Singles, I may slightly prefer The Go-Gos.

The Bangles really packed their albums with good songs, though. The songs that weren’t singles were never really known the non-fans, but there really was not much that you’d write off as “filler”.

The Bangles’ debut LP All Over the Place is solid from start to finish. Different Light has a couple songs that are noticeably weaker than the best songs, but definitely not bad. Everything was a bit over-produced in a way that it will always sound very 1988 but the songwriting is solid throughout (the worst songs are still pleasant enough) and a few of the best songs on the album were never released as singles (“Make a Play For Her Now” is one of the greatest Bangles songs ever).

The two 21st Century albums are both quite good from start to finish, although the first one Doll Revolution is a bit over-produced and the second Sweetheart of the Sun is a bit under-produced (and Sweetheart of the Sun doesn’t have Micki Steele, boo!).
By contrast, give me The Go-Gos Greatest and that’s plenty for me. I do love their best songs but I never feel the need to listen through the original albums. Their 2001 reunion album God Bless the Go-Gos was good but, again, there was a lot of filler.

Fun Fact:
For the Go-Gos’ big 1990s reunion tour, Charlotte Caffey was pregnant and could not join the tour. Vicki Peterson of the Bangles was her substitute for the tour. So, if any of you have ever entertained a Bangle-on-GoGo Fantasy that would have been the tour to see!

I found out about the Go-Gos by going to a Police concert in early 1982 where the Go-Gos were the opening act. Back in the late 1970s and early 1980s, it seemed that half the time I went to a rock concert, the opening band outshone the main event, and this was easily one of those times. A third of a century later, I can still remember how “Our Lips Are Sealed” kicked ass that night at the Cap Center.

Within weeks, everybody knew who they were, of course, but for once, I had the feeling of knowing about a great band before the whole world did.

And Beauty and the Beat was a very good album. Besides the songs that got a lot of airplay, songs like “Can’t Stop The World,” “This Town,” and “You Can’t Walk In Your Sleep (If You Can’t Sleep)” are still in the continual playlist in my head.

After that, they faded pretty fast, but that one good album sure was something.

The Bangles - well, honestly, I’m not the person you want to talk to about the Bangles. There should be a category for “artists/bands you loathed because of their first song that you heard,” and for me, the Bangles are in that category*.

The song in their case was “Manic Monday” which I continue to loathe. Let’s see: a three-minute whine, no ‘manic’ energy, hell kinda listless really, and an incredibly stupid refrain that would have been an OK bit of writing for a fourth-grader, but a middle-schooler should have been seriously ashamed of.

Green Day’s “Basket Case” comes to mind as a comparison, because it (a) at least has the honesty to open up with “do you have the time to listen to me whine?” and (b) has the energy that the word “Manic” of “Manic Monday” implies, but that “Manic Monday” totally lacks.

I’ll admit that “Walk Like an Egyptian” is a fun song, but it’s the only thing I’ve heard of theirs that I like. Admittedly, that only covers three songs, but “Egyptian” definitely was the exception in those three. (“If She Knew What She Wanted” - tolerable but not that great - was the other one, and the second one I heard, so by the time I heard “Egyptian” it registered with me as being atypical of them, so no reason to investigate further.)

Their respective sex appeal never really entered into it for me. I didn’t watch much MTV or VH1 back in the day, and even now, if I listen to a song on YouTube, odds are that the video detracts from my experience of the song more than it adds to it. Either the music’s good or it’s not, and the only sexiness that counts for me is in the vocal delivery itself.

*Another band in that category would be the Gin Blossoms. They eventually overcame the horrendous first impression they gave me with “Hey Jealousy,” but it took most of the time between then and now for it to happen.

I was in Go Go central, UC Santa Barbara, when they blew up. Jane’s little brother Andy Weidlin was in my class - I never knew him. The % of white, convertible VW Rabbit’s shot up by a bazillion over the course of a year.

Later I was in a band with a guy from England - not my old drummer, the producer; bass/guitar/vocals. I asked him what 80’s London was like and he said “well, I knobbed a Go Go.” :wink: Apprently they partied with the best of them.

Gina Shock always grooved it as a drummer; she and Kathy Valentine’s simple, catchy basslines, along with Wiedlin’s songwriting, were their secret weapons. Lousy guitar work. Caffey practically sounds like Kelly Deal to me (Kim Deal of the Pixies formed The Breeders with her twin sister Kelly on lead guitar, with Kelly having NO experience playing an instrument apparently).

The Go Go’s had more hits and are bigger on the pop culture landscape for the era. The Bangles were better musicians. Both were good bands that hold up because their music endures.

One could almost say they got the beat.

Not unlike an uninterrupted continuous blaze.

I think the Go-Go’s are the only show I ever walked out on, though in fairness we were really there to see Sparks and Marshall Crenshaw (we may also have been annoyed that Jane Wiedlin didn’t come out to do “Cool Places” with Sparks…what was up with that!?). But anyway, the Go-Go’s seemed hopelessly bland at the time.

Gina Shock was my tween crush. Those blue eyes behind the drum kit were way hotter than Hoffs eye shift.

Wow, really, you liked Ginger, Jennifer & Britta* better too, don’t you?

Susanna Hoffs was the best of the best, Belinda was good looking. I agree with those that say Jane Wiedlin was the cutest of the GoGos.

Musically I liked the Bangles quite a bit and felt they were improving greatly by the time they broke up. Their Hazy Shade of Winter was perfection. I guess We Got The Beat was the GoGos song I remember the most but can’t say I loved any of their songs.

Back to Jane Wiedlin, I thought she was sort of awesome in 2 of her acting roles. *Clue *as the Singing Telegram girl, and Joan of Arc in Bill & Ted’s.

  • Ginger vs Mary Ann Gilligan’s Island, Jennifer vs Bailey *WKRP *& Britta vs Annie Community.

You might give “Hero Takes A Fall” a shot. That’s the first Bangles song I heard (MTV had it in their rotation way back in the early days), and I still like it. The harmonies are great, and it’s an upbeat, clever tune. Once they hit it big, I agree their music got way overproduced and bland. Same thing happened with the Go-Gos, of course.

(Also, you have Prince to blame for the 4th-grade writing of “Manic Monday.” :stuck_out_tongue: )

Both “Beauty and the Beat” and “All Over the Place” are essential to any early-to-mid-80s record collection. (Or iTunes playlist, I guess these days.) Gun to my head, pick one band, I’d give the edge to the Bangles. But both bands are great. If I’m in a punkier mood, it’s Go-Go’s. Otherwise, the Bangles. I just find the Bangles more varied in their music and I could take larger doses of the Bangles than I could the Go-Go’s.

The Go-Go’s: Fairly decent band. A bit above the one hit wonder level.

Belinda Carlisle: Better than decent.* Heaven on Earth* was quite good. But failed to maintain the quality.

Jane Wiedlin: Never got the love for her. Just a run of the mill performer. I always assumed that her fan base was mostly drawn to her looks (which I didn’t get either).

(The Bangles: Total synthetic crap. There are fans of those … people???)