It’s fine to post unconventional ideas here, but they need to be unconventional ideas with evidence supporting them. Most of the people here do have their minds made up–the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, unless there is evidence to the contrary.
You’ve presented no evidence.
You haven’t even presented an argument yet.
We’re what? a hundred posts into this thread and you still haven’t stated your position on cattle mutilations.
carol nistri–what causes cattle mutilations?
Not forgetting, of course, drunken rednecks.
That’s redundant, isn’t it?
Sheeeeeut! Lemme show you boys this thing I call cow tippin’.
Johnny Mac, hand me that chainsaw…
The most reasonable explanation is that cattle die of natural causes and are scavenged, and then people with limited experience (including ranchers - they are not experts in cattle deaths) think that the cattle “look funny”.
One can simply accept the most reasonable explanation about things. One does not have to make up complicated scenarios to explain things that happen around us all the time naturally.
Here’s something to help you understand:
The other day I saw holes in my lawn. They were not there the day before. I am an expert in my lawn - I have tended it and mowed it for years. Never seen holes like this before. A local pest control expert told me that it’s probable that a raccoon dug up areas looking for beetle grubs or the like. This is a reasonable explanation. I don’t need to come up with complex theories involving a conspiracy of my neighbors and a local lawn care company… or aliens. Or someone taking radiation samples from my lawn. I don’t think the pest control guy is part of the conspiracy. I’ll just go with the simple explanation.
Even though I’m not examining every single possible bizarre and complex explanation for the “lawn hole mystery” - It does not mean that I’m close minded. It means that I believe Occam’s Razor applies here. The simplest explanation is probably correct. I also believe that an expert (pest control guy) is probably right, as he has lots of experience in this area.
You could help your cause (IMO) by brushing up on your grammar and dropping the odd abbreviation.
cashew, does your knife also have one of those thingies for picking stones out of horses’ hooves?
O-kayyyy. I give up.
Is a cattle mute more like a malamute, only fluffier?
Ah Ha! A live one…ok Marley23,you mentioned Cougars,Dogs,Coyotes and wolves.Each and every one of those animals can be identified in or around a kill by the method and the tracks they leave at the sight.With cattle mutes there are no such clues.Signs of how the animals died are nonexistant.Thats what got all of this started in the first place. A rancher finds a dead animal walks over to it and the first thing hes got to do is determine that the animal died of something that doest threaten the rest of the herd. When he comes across a cattle mutilation the first thing he notices is that the anus has been cored,the udder has been removed,sometimes the skin around the face and neck have been removed,he knows thru years of experience that what hes seeing isnt normal. Are ya with me so far?
While mulling over a simple explanation for those holes in your lawn think Skunk.
That business of reasonable explanations has been gone over many times.The question of just what killed the aniamal remains unanswed. Unless the predators your imagining can float they leave tracks in and around the animal their feeding on. If predation is the reason for the animals death of course there would be tracks,the teeth marks of the feeding animal would be present.In both cases there not.
The whole idea is to try to get people thinking differently then we do,thats all.Sure I can come out and say what I think but Im telling you in stages that this being natural at all just doesnt cut it. The simple explanation is wrong.And its caused by gross laziness.
Course, the fact that there are no skunks around here should probably not enter into my thinking. Neither should I discount hippos, emus or a troupe of red-faced lemurs. I’m going to stick with the simplest explanation, as I have a limited amount of time.
Of course, it has been answered, you just don’t like the answer. Many animals do not leave tracks on hard, dry ground. Predators don’t always leave obvious “teeth marks”, especially after the wound is old, and has been altered by the elements, or other small critters (already mentioned above). People who are familiar with animal death in the wild are quite comfortable with the predator explanation. Those who are more credulous would have us believe in an explanation that is very complex, mysterious, unproven, and with very limited evidence.
Well, if you’re not going to present an argument, then I’m just going to have to call Troll.
Been nice chatting with you.
Oh dear… you’re telling us in stages? I’ve been reading through this thead periodically for the last two days. How much longer do I have to wait for you to tell me what your hypothesis is?
And what is caused by gross laziness? The simple explanation is caused by gross laziness?
The only gross laziness in this thread is your writing style. And your insistence in abbreviating the word mutilations. Seriously.
Let’s pretend we have reached the next stage… carol nistri, what do you believe is causing cattle mutilations???
Please do not accuse other posters of trolling outside of the Pit. [/Moderating]
Or why she cares.
That’s not trolling, although it’s an annoying tactic. In any case you’re not allowed to call people trolls unless you’re posting in the BBQ Pit.
Yes, actually, it is. Posters here have been admonished, warned, maybe even banned for using similar tactics.
But, you all are right… I should’ve just pitted her, instead.
How do we know there are no clues, and that the people who find the bodies don’t miss them or misinterpret them? Ken Rommel (who I’d never heard of before this thread, but his conclusions are more credible than your evasions) seems to think there are understandable signs.
I thought this was started by people seeing dead, rotted cows and going “EEEEEEEW! Look at that!” And to prove my point…
Rommel’s explanations seem to cover this.
Does he? When people come across something weird they can panic and do weird or irrational things.