Oh I’m taking that in to account, you’re downplaying it though. Hundreds of sex assault reports across at least five German cities, but hey Frauleins don’t worry. That’s probably only being done by maybe 1% of the people we just let in the country. We still think there’s a lot of valuable new citizens in there. It’s worth the minor inconvenience of you having to stay hidden on New Year’s Eve.
I’m a woman myself, I take the threat of sexual assault seriously. However, this isn’t a feature of MENA culture - western society has examples of mass sexual assault as well There were about 7500 rapes/sexual assaults reported in Germany in 2011, before the “migrant crisis”. It’s not like Germany women were perfectly safe beforehand and suddenly under threat now. Rape has always been a risk for women everyone, let’s not pretend it’s some “other” group that commits it. Men from all cultures, of all sorts, commit rape and sexual assault. It’s a problem for all societies.
Absolutely find the perpetrators and participants of this series of crimes and punish them to the full extent of the law.
However, do NOT tar the vast majority of people from that region who are law-abiding people who can be relied on to behave within the society they have moved to with the sins a small slice of the group.
This sort of thing is exactly the sort of thing to trigger tribal hatred and outrage at “them” touching “our” women. I would like to think Europe is more civilized than that.
We are talking about a force of about 1000 young men (I repeat: one thousand) men that entered a comparatively tiny place in the center of Cologne on the busiest night of the year, which is not a trivial thing to organize in itself. For those of you who don’t know Cologne, Cologne main station is only a couple of yards away from Cologne Cathedral, one of the largest and most impressive Christian churches in Europe, it is traditionally the place were young and old welcome the new year and where they would have felt safe. This was an orchestrated and highly symbolic demonstration of power and humiliation of the local population (and all the others who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time). The sheer magnitude of what happened is breathtaking.
There was a massive attempt to cover up what happened. The headquarters of WDR (West German Broadcasting) is literally only several feet away from the scene of events. WDR is the second-largest broadcasting organization in Europe. They could have filmed this by just holding a camera from the windows of their newsroom. If you walk through the center of Cologne for 10 minutes on an uneventful summer’s day, you will typically have stumbled upon WDR 2 camera teams and 3 radio reporters.
The coverage by the BBC was shameful as well, at first it wasn’t really reported, then hid away as a fairly minor story, as the scale of things became clear it was made more prominent but then the tone of the reporting was shifted to ‘its all the fault of the police’.
I’ve considered writing a complaint, but I doubt it would do any good.
Thirty. Not 60-70, and very much not 200. Thirty years, and less. Mass assaults, no, but no rights, no defense from a bad husband or a bad father or any other man in a position of authority, divorce nonexistant or initiated only by the husband, having to leave a profession you’d trained for on grounds of commiting marriage…
I wouldn’t necessarily blame the BBC since foreign news media, to some degree, have to rely upon local reports. Hours after the incident, Cologne police had issued an official press release claiming that nothing remarkable had occurred on New Year’s Eve.
The first English language news source to break the story, BTW, was Breitbart News London (I didn’t even know they had an office in the UK) and their report was accurate. This came after the now infamous press conference by the Cologne police chief (who was fired yesterday) on Monday.
You may very well be right regarding the slow reponse, but BBC coverage has been so poor for the past few years that I’m reluctant to give them the benefit of the doubt, and that also doesn’t explain the nature of the coverage.
For those who wonder why I use a website I dislike its because I pay £150 per year for a television licence fee I have no choice but to pay, and as I don’t watch TV I’d like something back for my money. And when they aren’t trying to push an agenda they can have some readable articles.
btw does anyone else think its rather unfair to blame the police chief for this? It smacks of politicians trying to direct attention away from themselves.
So, what happened was a big bunch of Muslims conspired to make themselves despised and unwelcome? A carefully orchestrated plan to make themselves and their fellow Muslims as miserable and persecuted as could possibly be arranged?
And nobody ratted them out? Their lines of communication were so secure that no one unreliable was connected, nobody found out but the true believers who came to Germany hoping to be run out on a rail?
Im sure there is a whole behind the scenes pissing contest going on between mayor, police chief and central government. All will be attempting to put their own spin on this. The police chief seems to have lost this round of this particular contest.
With regards to the initial BBC coverage I read elsewhere the first BBC report failed to mention the ethnicity of the perpetrators, but did mention that far right elements were up in arms over the incidents. I don’t know if this is a true account of the first BBC report but it does sound exactly what we have come to expect from them. Some details are subtly underplayed. To be fair to the BBC they are not the only ones to do this sort of thing.
Well, OK. How was the plan communicated securely, so that only the trustworthy and reliable found out about it? Really smart people have a hard time doing that, how did a bunch of dumb asses manage it? The more people who are connected to a conspiracy, the more likely it is that someone will tumble, yes? And this one, apparently, involved…hundreds? thousands?..of co-conspirators.
And no breaches of security? Remarkable, to say the least. Fucking amazing, to put it about right.
OK, I’m a strange guy with some unpopular opinions, I have that on good authority. But I’m the only person who thinks this just doesn’t add up? Well, not the first time, not the last, either, probably.
But it doesn’t add up. When something fits so neatly into preconceived notions, slips into place with a click!…I get suspicious.
Very true on both points, the first BBC reports I read did mention that the suspects were ‘apparently of Middle Eastern or North African origin’, but then spent the next few paragraphs saying that they weren’t necessarily refugees. Sure, but they were still immigrants at some point.
What do you think happened? Genuine non-snarky question.
I cannot say for certain but I suspect these instances of mass abuse are an annual tradition. It doesn’t have to be an organised conspiracy. If you go through reports of such abuse(or are prepared to listen to victims who will now come forward) you’ll probably find similar, but fewer, types of attacks happened last new year also. Im sure this is not the first time muslims (or others) have came together as abusive gangs at a mass celebration.
Elucidator, I am one hundred percent with you. I have no idea how to articulate an argument for this which doesn’t make me sound crazy. You’ve done a better job than I could on that front.
Som’m ain’t right about this whole thing and I smell a rat.
Cologne is the English pronunciation
I have also heard reports of an increase of attacks on woman in Sweden and Denmark by immigrants and we have also experienced sexual attacks on underage girls in the U.K. The last thing that we need is another cover up so as to not upset the immigrants.
