Okay local used CD store, I've had enough of you

I remember a day… a bright shining day when the world was still young and warm, when puppies and kittens played happily together in well kept public parks filled with smiling multicultural passersby.

And in this day, when you didn’t feel like shelling out $50 for a new CD, you could go to a place called a Used CD Store. And in this place, a chainsmoking stoner clerk in some clothes he stole off a homeless guy would sell very cheap music, which he bought from people who no longer wanted it. He would make money by moving items at volume due to low prices, and by setting up his store in this most horrific crime-ridden strip mall in town. And when you came to the counter with a Beatles album, he would roll his eyes and point out that you should be listening to some Indie band nobody gave a crap about. And when you bought an album by some Indie band, he would roll his eyes and say you should buy an album by some import band nobody ever heard of with lyrics in some bizarre lingual hybrid spoken only by the band members themselves, and then poorly. And when you bought that album, he would look at it, rolls his eyes especially hard, and point out that the serial number clearly showed that this album was from the second printing, which meant that the minute degradation in the master would render it hideous and earwrenching.

And lo, it was good.

But that day has gone, and we are sunk into night. For today… errr, tonight, I didst venture forth to the local used CD store. And I didst notice that it was oddly located right across from the shopping mall, in a clean strip mall, between a matress shop and a smoothie stand. And I didst enter into it, and lo, there was no stoner. There was not even a mildly hippie-esque wannabe college student. No, gentle readers, there was a little fratfuck with gel in his hair, wearing khakis and a polo shirt with the store logo on it. And my heart didst tremble.

Ahem, switching back to normalspeak here… so basically, here’s the beef. The used CDs cost the same as the new ones. Well, not the same, there is a $1 reduction from catalog price. The reason being, as related by said fratfuck, that Megacorp International has bought up all the used CD stores in town (which, admittedly, was not a Standard Oil style endeavor). And since they sell music, it doesn’t make much sense for them to offer reasonable prices for used CDs, in fact they were rather interested in just stamping out the whole industry (which they, inexplicably to me, still bought and kept operating). Oh, and if I wanted new CDs in convenient $500 boxed set form (Still With Only Two Tracks That Don’t Suck!), they had plenty of them. Right over by the Britney Spears fanmags and the Rolling Stones Brand decaf display.

I would like to say fuck these people. But that doesn’t quite cover it, so I’m going to have to go a bit overboard and say fuck everyone and everything who/what has ever existed, and fuck them up the ass with a red hot pitchfork while I’m at it. Sonofabitch goddamn motherfuck. Elvis fucking Christ, have these people not figured it out? If you won’t let us buy the music legitimately at prices we can afford, we’re just going to build elaborate computer networks that would make Gene Roddenberry say “You did what now?” to steal it. And then we’re going to sit around watching Kevin Smith movies and ignore the growing threat posed by international terrorism. We’ve already tried this shit.

Fuck fuckity fuck fuck. I mean, is it really that much to want to legally buy music, but not to have to forego housing to do so? Congratulations record companies, you’ve ensured that you will not be receiving any money at all from me instead of a small amount in what I’m sure some MBA is telling you is a masterstroke of competitive economics. Good work.

Only a buck off really sucks. When I bought my first CD player many years ago I spent many a happy time browsing the used CD racks, and picking up stuff I’d never pay full price for.

Been listening to the new Cramps album, eh?

there’s a song on it called Elvis Fucking Christ :slight_smile:

I knew I should have copyrighted that phrase!

Elvis can fuck Christ all he wants as long as he doesn’t try to marry him!

:slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

I’m confused here. If you buy a used CD, how does that benefit the music company? Or, more importantly, the artist? From an economic point of view (for the record company), there’s no difference between your buying a used CD and ripping the tracks off of Napster.

However, if it is true that the used CD store is selling them for only a dollar less than full price (and where are CDs $50.00, anyway?), then eventually some entrepreneur will open up a competing store that sells them for less.

Hey, you can always check out www.secondspin.com. Might not find a chainsmoking stoner clerk, but where else can you find Rock ‘N’ Tots Cafe Christmas “Giff” Song Album by Kathie Lee Gifford for 99 cents :smiley:

[QUOTE=Finagle]
I’m confused here. If you buy a used CD, how does that benefit the music company? Or, more importantly, the artist? From an economic point of view (for the record company), there’s no difference between your buying a used CD and ripping the tracks off of Napster./QUOTE]

There is a difference. This is a legal transaction. If I have purchased the CD, book, DVD, in question, I am allowed to sell it or give it to you. If I want to take all my (legally purchased) DVDs and give them away to people walking down the street, I am allowed to do so. That is not piracy. I can speak mainly of books. My friends and I often come into work one day and tell one another, “I think you’d like this book.” and give it to one another. Well, from my experience, there is a 70% chance I’ll like that author so much, I’ll end buying her/his works upon release. I think the same goes for music. I’ve lent out CDs to friends numerous times. Most of the time, they’ve liked the artist’s music and bought CD’s from the artist. If they didn’t like it, oh well. I have my CD back and no one is hurt.

Even if I sell the work to a used book store, they obtained it legally from me. No one stole the work in question.

Ahh, the days in which you could buy a marijuana pipe, a heavy metal patch for your jean jacket, an armful of bootleg heavy metal t-shirts for a few bucks a piece, and your music all in the same place…

sighs in reminiscence

On the contrary! (That’s English for au contraire.) Every used CD is one that somebody once bought new. Then they decided they didn’t like it, or got tired of it, or just needed a little extra cash, so they turned around and sold it to someone else. If such an option were not available, people might well be less willing to buy new CDs.

Oh, and applause to the OP. Nice rant.

Sweet, thanks for the link.

Excellent OP.

And really, even though the thread’s probably going to go off into a discussion of the economics of the issue, this isn’t even about economics: it’s about the fratfuck with gel in his hair who’s never heard of Fat Possum Records.

When I go into an indie music store, I want them to show me the new import of some Japanese band’s recording of Terry Riley’s “In C” backed with something else called “In E” that I’ve never heard of. (Note: This happened to me last week.) I do not want the clerk to look clean, or like he might be thinking of majoring in marketing. I want the place to smell like incense to cover up all the pot they smoke in the back room, and I want that clerk to be know everything there is to know about every single band I’ve never heard of, so that when I tell him I like Minor Threat, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, and Andrew Bird’s mid-period stuff, he’ll say, “Dude, you have GOT to check out the Squicking Squirrels’ third album!” And he’ll fire it up, and I’ll love it, and I’ll buy it, and as I’m walking out he’ll go back to talking to his girlfriend on the phone.

That’s what needs to happen at a used record store, and it’s not going to happen when there’s a Regional Manager who might be stopping in later to make sure the counters are getting dusted and the Cher display is in the right spot to get good foot traffic.

Fuck people who sell music but don’t care about it.

[semi-relevant hijack]Oh yeah, and on the same topic, fuck Blockbuster too, since they obviously hate movies.[/semi-relevant hijack]

Sirs and Madams, I give you the glory that is Amoeba!

That’s still too much money.

I just to my local place. The same clerk was there as usual. Life is good.

Sorry yours turned eeevil. :frowning:

Eh, not to rain too badly on your parade, but I have great luck buying used. One of the few remaining independent used shops, perhaps, but they are around.

My place has the normal racks of stuff (between 6-10 bucks). But they also have great selection in their $5 shelves (PLURAL!), pretty decent stuff still exists in the $2.50 shelves, and if I’m feeling like taking a risk, I hit the $1 and (brace yourself) $0.50 shelves for stuff I’ve never heard of by failed bands.

Sadly, no incense nor bongs, and not much in the way of patches, but a hell of a deal on music.

Moral of the story: If you’re in the DC area, there are four (maybe five) stores by the name of “CD and Game Exchange.” Check them out. I would guess there are still holdouts elsewhere not staffed by Abercrombie St.Starbucks McAeropostale.

I didn’t say it wasn’t legal. I just pointed out that when you buy a used CD, the record company doesn’t get squat from it (except in the somewhat tenuous case of your deciding to buy a new CD by the same artist later on.) The OP seemed to make the claim that the company derived some kind of benefit when he bought a used CD.

I tend to listen to mostly folk music which is an almost vanishingly small niche, so unless the album is out of print, I won’t buy used. I figure folk musicians are about as starving as artists get so they need the royalties. And I want to encourage the record companies to keep publishing the music I like.

I go the above mentioned Amoeba and a little place called CDNow. For your popular CD’s, used, I generally pay $5.50 to $9.50. Some are a bit more, but not that often. I get a BIG break on box sets. I got the Steely Dan Citizen 4 disc set for $22.00. There are bargin bins where I find the occasional gem for $3.00.

[Record Rtore Clerk]
“Dude, you have GOT to check out Split Lip Rayfield - Never Make It Home”.
[/Record Store Clerk]

Well, enough of that shit… it’s my day off.

Yeah, CD and Game exchange is pretty cool. I like the way they stack their stock so you can see the titles of the CD’s, so you don’t have to flip thru the bins like in so many other stores. However it does seem like a lot of used CD stores in the DC area have closed down recently: DCCD, Flying Saucer, and the one at Dupont whose name escapes me right now. I hope the exchange will stick around.