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I agree there are a lot of outrageous bills introduced with little chance of passage, or that get radically amended before passage. And I have no idea whether the one being discussed here is among them. So I gave my opinion on the bill, not on the chances of passage.
There are several other anti-immigrant bills, currently before the Oklahoma legislature and scheduled to be heard in committee:
Sure it is. But this is just a bad bill, never to see the light of day. What are you going to do about it? Are you a Oklahoma voter?
Sure, and I do fight such bills- in Congress or rarely CA. But honestly, if you arent a Oklahoma Voter, you have no voice here. If you are, do please contact your state rep. Are you from Oklahoma?
A local news channel.
Exactly.
Since few of us are in Oklahoma, afaik, we have no real voice there. A bunch of "liberal furrinors’ writing will help the bill get voted on.
It isnt even scheduled to go to a Committee, where, if so, it will likely die. If it actually gets to the Governors desk, then maybe non-Oklahoma voices might be listened to- but I doubt it.
Yes, this is a bad bill. But should we get excited over a bill that is unlikely even to get a vote, and that we- as non-Oklahoma voters- can do nothing about?
Again: We can do something about it. We can spread the word. Which is what the OP is doing.
Should there be a bill proposed in any state calling for, say, the execution of every non white citizen in said state, I’m glad to know that there’s nothing to be concerned about.
Other than that bill’s author being led away in a straight jacket by the men in the nice White coats- no, nothing to be concerned about.
Nor am I concerned about the Lizardmen taking over the world, or Jewish Space lasers, or Chemtrails*,or making Pi = 3, or banning lawyers as they have “titles of nobility” or several other things which arent going to happen. And, when I heard about those, I chuckled a bit, then moved on.
*A bill was proposed in Indiana criminalize the intentional discharge of chemicals into the atmosphere to affect weather or sunlight.
Exactly. Crazy bills that have no hope of passing- and even if they di- which somehow the Tenn one did- they will have no effect, since a law banning something that doesnt happen has no effect. It just means they are crazy. . And what did you, personally do about those? Were you concerned? Write letters? Start a thread? or just roll your eyes?
Should a state start considering rounding up all the Hispanics and putting them in interment camps I’ll just just roll your eyes and keep telling myself that such things can’t happen in America (a phrase that sounds better in the original Japanese).
I believe the original German went something like this:
Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Kommunist.
Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten, habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
Als sie die Juden einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Jude.
Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.
Translated roughly:
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I kept quiet; I wasn’t a communist.
When they came for the trade unionists, I kept quiet;
I wasn’t a trade unionist.
When they locked up the social democrats, I kept quiet;
I wasn’t a social democrat.
When they locked up the Jews, I kept quiet;
I wasn’t a Jew.
When they came for me, there was no one left to protest.
No, I am not an Oklahoman.
Neither am I a religionist or an immigrant, but yet I am there at the local Episcopalian Church standing guard every Sunday, ready to get in the face of ICE agents wanting to get in.
I may not be a domino, but I think I know what happens to a row of them when one is knocked down.
You dare to compare chemtrails to food banks?
It’s clearly despicable and craven but it’s also the most explicitly anti-christian legislation I have seen in the US.
Never mind “making companies pay part of their employee’a medical insurance, which might include birth control”. That’s explicitly makes it illegal to show kindness to strangers unless you have explicitly ensured they are native born, so you can treat them differently to a foreigner who sojourns with you.
But it might not be anti-MAGAChristian.
Other than, say, helping to boost the signal on just how insane and evil this bill is, so that people who do live in Oklahoma hear more about it.
but he’s not even sending some of them back home but to worse places
Moderating:
This thread was hijacked from about the fourth post, and it’s only gotten worse, rather than better. @Aspenglow tried to put it on a better track by moving it here to P&E, but less than 20% of the posts are about the actual proposed legislation, and a large number of the rest are rants or partial threadshits.
As such, I’m closing this thread. If our OP would like it reopened in the Pit, PM me and I’ll do so. If another poster wants to do a thread about how much current legislation is for posturing, or the hypocrisy of Republicans, well, that’s still probably Pit territory but you’re welcome to do so.
Moderating:
With the OP’s permission, the thread has been moved to the BBQ Pit, and is now open. Thank you for your patience.
In addition to being despicable and craven for denying food to hungry people (I recall Jesus having a few things to say about that in Matthew 25), it also means that even citizens who need aid would have to be able to prove it.
“Papers, please.”
Funny, it used to be the right wing that was against that sort of required identification - ‘number of the beast’ and all that jizz.