Who is the oldest recorded person whose existance we are sure off? By recorded I mean we have a name, general idea of location and time of existance and optionally whatever they did.
Semi-legendary figures like the Scorpian King need not apply.
Who is the oldest recorded person whose existance we are sure off? By recorded I mean we have a name, general idea of location and time of existance and optionally whatever they did.
Semi-legendary figures like the Scorpian King need not apply.
The longest-lived person whose exact age is undisputed was Jeanne Calment.
There are any number of claims, but she’s the oldest that we know for sure.
surprisingly, wiki states that jean calment of france is still listed as the person with the oldest confirmed age (122 years, 164 days.) i remember time reported a japanese man surpassed her but i suppose it’s under dispute.
calment was born february 21, 1875. she had a picture (first in the link below) dated 1896 as a youngish woman (or a precocious girl.)
http://www.grg.org/JCalmentGallery.htm
there was a story about a man in the 1950s who wanted to buy a nice house in picturesque arles, france. the house was occupied by a woman in her 70s. the old woman had no heir and agreed to a monthly amount until she died, whereupon the ownership would go to the man. well, the man died first —of old age. as was agreed in the contract, the man’s heirs continued to pay the old woman as long as she was alive. how the heck would they know that the woman would live to be 122 years old?
Question for the OP: Did you mean who is the most aged person for which we have reliable information regarding their age, or did you mean which historical figure is both reliably known to have existed and dates the furthest into the past (e.g. and Egyptian Pharaoh)?
oh well, let’s try to answer the second question. the iceman of tyrol?
I think what he is trying to ask is “Who is the earliest historical figure?” or “Who is the first historical individual?”
And of course the question is impossible to answer.
How do you distinguish between a semi-mythological figure and an historical figure? Is Jesus historical or mythological? Socrates? Alexander the Great? Davey Crockett? The fact is that all historical figures outside of popular living memory pick up a a semi-mythological status. Alexander and Washington have both picked up huge amounts of mythology, but that doesn’t mean that any reasonable person would claim that we are not 100% sure that they existed or 100% sure about many of the details of their lives. Of course once you get back to the time of Alexander, pretty much any historical figures is going to be more than semi-mythological. Alexander himself claimed that he was a demi-god, as did all rulers of the time.
The reality is that all historical figures are semi-mythological. The only thing that varies if the amount of corroborating evidence for their existence. Of course the further back you go, the less corroborating evidence exists. There is no objective line that can be drawn which allows us to claim that Washington and Alexander were real, but King Scorpion is strictly legendary. You can choose to discount the evidence for King Scorpion, but that isn’t because he more myhtological than Alexander or Washington. Quite the opposite is true.
Much older human remains have been found. While we know a bit more about “Otzi” from examination of his body and possessions, we don’t know his real name or much about his life.
The question can’t be answered definitively, it depends on how much evidence you are willing to accept.
Note to self. Don’t multi task! The earliest figure who is reliably known to have exisgted.
IIRC the earliest documented actual named figure would be the earliest pharaoh about 5,000 years ago.
That’s the problem though, and why the OP specifically ruled out the Scorpion King, the earliest pharoah’s can’t be described as being reliably documented.
Adam. October, 4004 BC. Born in present day Iraq. Over SIX thousand years ago! Ha! Top that!
Xenu. 75 million years ago. Although depictions differ.
Narmer or Menes united upper and lower Egypt about 3100BC.
One of the tombs of upper Egypt does have a “scorpion” emblem on it, so if you accept that, Scorpion 1 About 3200BC according to Wikipedia. But the name is about as reliable as Elizabeth’s name “Triple Lion” or “Red Cross” from her symbology.
The Kings List of Sumeria seems to be mostly imprecise mythology (reigns of thousands of years) and does not seem to be real-time until about 2100BC.
As a matter of trivia, I read once that Imhoptep (about 2655-2600BC) is the first non-monarch of whom we have documented evidence of name and existance; according to wiki, from contemporary inscriptions. He invented the (step) pyramid, among other things.
Thomas Edison. I mean, he invented the thing, right?
A nearly identical question from 2009. I think it covered some useful ground.
And his name was…? Did you read the OP?
Steve.
Otzi. Admittedly he’d been dead for several millennia when he was named, but still…
Isn’t more properly: Oetzi?
Or, per cmyk, Steve Oetzi.
Submitted for your perusal my similar question from 9 years ago.
9 years ago? Hell, time flies, don’t it?