¡Olé Zapatero!

The BBQ Pit
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[QUOTE=RedFury]
Well, strictly speaking for myself,when there’s footy involved, politics ceases to exist Then again, politics only comes into play between WCs. Therefore they become my second of choice – and could possibly be better than showing that Spain is in the vanguards of social change worldwide. Even more now when there are no Bogey-men to blame.
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Happy as I am with this result (the parties must be a blast today) I must take issue with this. I was not aware Spain paid any attention to the World Cup. I mean, sure, the national team turns up to the finals sometimes, but they don’t seem to like it very much and do their best to go home as soon as possible…

Anyway - enjoy the celebrations, have a couple for me, and I’ll raise a glass to a left of center victory from across the Atlantic.

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Just coming in to add that it’s ¡Olé Zapatero!

Why yes, I have a nice collection of nits I have picked.

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[QUOTE=Muad’Dib]
And I still stand by that.
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Wait just a minute.

You do?

Really?

Your thread holds the ignominy of being the nadir of the entire SDMB’s history. You were a) wrong, and b) tactless beyond fucking belief.

Honestly, since I’ve largely overlooked every single thing you’ve written since that act of intellectual vomit, I thought you’d slunk off with your tail between your legs, thinking it sufficient to stick to MPSIMS because you discovered that you’re too stupid for the Pit.

What, then, are you standing by? Your blind ignorance in the face of the truth, or your insult to the democratic process, and by extension your vile slur on the people of Spain and the victims of the bombings?

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[QUOTE=villa]
Happy as I am with this result (the parties must be a blast today) I must take issue with this. I was not aware Spain paid any attention to the World Cup. I mean, sure, the national team turns up to the finals sometimes, but they don’t seem to like it very much and do their best to go home as soon as possible…
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Ouch! You sure know how to get to my sore spot :frowning: Then again, I almost always have Real Madrid to rely on for some silverware or another.

Not much else to add to what’s already been so well explained by mhendo and yojimbo – including the fact that Muad’Dib’s a complete imbecile – I’ll just say that Aznar’s Gov went so far as to pass a strong condemnation from the Security Council repudiating ETA within a twelve hour period of the incident. Which they shamefully had to withdraw a day later.

Damn straight Spaniards don’t take well to being lied to.

A à propos of nothing, I flew back last night from the US, my fourth trip in the past six months to see my son – and the fourth consecutive time I get sent to “the terrarists” line! Wonder what the hell I’ve done to “deserve” such an honor?

I mean, WTF? I’m literally tired of some dude touching my gonads.

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[QUOTE=jjimm]
Wait just a minute.

You do?

Really?

Your thread holds the ignominy of being the nadir of the entire SDMB’s history. You were a) wrong, and b) tactless beyond fucking belief.

Honestly, since I’ve largely overlooked every single thing you’ve written since that act of intellectual vomit, I thought you’d slunk off with your tail between your legs, thinking it sufficient to stick to MPSIMS because you discovered that you’re too stupid for the Pit.

What, then, are you standing by? Your blind ignorance in the face of the truth, or your insult to the democratic process, and by extension your vile slur on the people of Spain and the victims of the bombings?
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Ouch.

In other news, today has officially become Party Spanish Style Day in my yearbook. Here’s to you, Zapatero!

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[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]
I thought our government lied to them. What did their government say to make a case for supporting the invasion?
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Parrot the lies. 'cept very few Spaniards bit as witnessed by the HUGE bi-partisan anti-intervention marches ahead of the war .

The infamous Azores pic was merely the beginning of the sinking of Spanish RW Titanic.

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Woo Hoo! Congratulations RedFury and Spain! Way to go, Democracy!!

And thanks for the shout out, too. I’m quite flattered and certainly appreciate the support. :slight_smile:

¡Olé!

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Ah. Thanks.

I was under the impression that everyone knew it wasn’t ETA, given that it was unlike every other ETA attack in every way.

I was studying counterterrorism at the time, and our essay for the week was “who really did it?”

Pretty much all of us (stupid Americans all, but unusually globally aware stupid 'mericans, given our line of study) went with Al-Quaeda or a related group.

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[QUOTE=mhendo]
I think that what elucidator is referring to is the fact that the Spanish government, after the attacks on Madrid, blamed the Basque separatist group, ETA, despite the fact that there was no evidence implicating them, there had been no warnings before the explosion (ETA’s usual practice was to call and provide a warning), and ETA was not claiming responsibility for the attack (something that it nearly always does).

And the Spanish government (not the PSOE, but Aznar’s Partido Popular) kept insisting it was ETA well after it had become obvious, even to people with Muad’Dib’s level of mental acuity, that ETA had nothing to do with it. This didn’t sit well with the Spanish people, many of whom argued that Aznar was blaming ETA in order to deflect attention from Spain’s involvement in Bush’s Iraq debacle, which was very unpopular in Spain even among many PP supporters.
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Ah. This is what I was seeking. I really wasn’t trying to be a jerk or imply anything previously, I honestly didn’t know and I wanted some perspective.
Thanks.

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[QUOTE=RedFury]
Ouch! You sure know how to get to my sore spot :frowning: Then again, I almost always have Real Madrid to rely on for some silverware or another.

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How are they doing in the Champions League this year?

Like I have room to mock anyway. As an England fan, and the user name should hint more than a little at my club allegiance, it is not like I am flush with success on a regular basis. Or, in fact, ever.

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[QUOTE=FoieGrasIsEvil]
Ah. This is what I was seeking. I really wasn’t trying to be a jerk or imply anything previously, I honestly didn’t know and I wanted some perspective.
Thanks.
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Apologies Sir.

I may have jumped the gun on that one, but as you can see from the linked thread there weren’t all that many good intentions towards Spain after we got rid of your puppet.

But, as I said, I wrong in this case.

'pologies.

[QUOTE=Shayna]
Woo Hoo! Congratulations RedFury and Spain! Way to go, Democracy!!

And thanks for the shout out, too. I’m quite flattered and certainly appreciate the support. :slight_smile:

¡Olé!
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Thanks a bunch, I do feel proud for more reasons that belong here.

As for sending some well-earned praise your way, well woman, if they are indeed well-earned, well then, no thanks needed…yet you’re quite welcomed anyway.

BTW, in my exuberant state last night I did a horrid job with my OP. Not the least of which is the title which should properly read:

¡Olé Zapatero!

[QUOTE=villa]
How are they doing in the Champions League this year?
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Dunno, I only watched both matches in agony. You know, for the sheer joy of it all.

Don’t despair my man. The Premiership is rapidly becoming the best national League in the world. And while it it’ll take some time for the locals to produce a Cesc Fabregas, it’ll happen.

As for Villa in specific, what can I say? When you’re right you’re right. :wink:

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[QUOTE=RedFury]
Then again, I almost always have Real Madrid to rely on for some silverware or another.
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Feh! You may side with the winners in politics, but you surely suck at choosing winners in football. Go Barza!* :wink:
*My 2.5 yo daughter owns two Barza Ts and a ball. She loves them.

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[QUOTE=Airman Doors, USAF]
OK, I’m confused. Not being well-versed in the Spanish political scene, you have to tell me: did your guy win or didn’t he? If he did, what’s the complaint? If he didn’t, why do you seem to be lauding the opposition?

I’m hopelessly confused.
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His guy won, but for some reason he expects to get flamed for it.
That’s Barça, Mighty_Girl :smack:

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[QUOTE=Nava]
That’s Barça, Mighty_Girl :smack:
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ç = ALT + 231 in Windows, in case anyone was wondering.

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My keyboard doesn’t have cedillas (it’s bad enough that we have to constantly switch between Spanish, English and Danish), and I don’t know Catalan. I have seen it spelled **Barza **by Spanish (non-catalan) speakers.

At least I didn’t spell *olé *with an H. :smiley:

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And here I was thinking it was a typo for Holy.

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Yeah yeah…drive almost 300 miles down from Orlando, stop in Boca for lunch with ex in-laws, barely have time to return the car prior to boarding, and then get accosted by some flunkie who insists I need my 'nads massaged. Fly home, read the final results of the election, get all excited and then try to remember you’re bilingual or something.

Mighty Girl, must do something to help that gorgeous baby of yours away from the devil – willing to baby sit at times as long as I can sing to her : “Hala El Madrid, hala el Madrid, hala el Madrid!!!..”

Or else you can simply play her this hair-raising clip over and over:

Himno del Real Madrid C.F.

Trust me, it’s bound to bring much happiness into her life. :wink:

Nava, I didn’t just expected, I knew there’d be some haters that couldn’t stomach other ZP victory.

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[QUOTE=RedFury]
BTW, in my exuberant state last night I did a horrid job with my OP. Not the least of which is the title which should properly read:

¡Olé Zapatero!
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I went ahead and added your crazy Spanish punctuation to the thread title. Then I did the Mexican Hat Dance. (I am bad at geography.)

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[QUOTE=Giraffe]
I went ahead and added your crazy Spanish punctuation to the thread title. Then I did the Mexican Hat Dance. (I am bad at geography.)
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Thanx much, ya dweeb! Might as well have yourself a taco while you’re at it – traditional Spanish cuisine as you well know.

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Shouldn’t this thread now have to report itself for not being in English? :smiley: