Fair enough.
I have lived my entire life in majority Black nations, who have been subjugated by minority White people.
I may have some perspective here.
I sometimes call my dog ‘monkey’ or ‘monkey man.’ but it’s just because with his face growing whiter, it makes him look a bit monkeyish (plus he’s mischeivous as heck). I only use it inside the house, though, because I live in a fairly mixed neighborhood. I’d be ashamed to my toes if someone heard me, and thought I was referring to them.
Microaggressions do count.
When they were little, I would call my kids “Monkey Boy” (Using the same inflection from Buckaroo Banzai), but they were wild little boys who liked to climb.
Am I the only one here confused by the tag saying
“Item 1 of 1” (meaning that this is the first thing, and that there’s only one thing in the order)
“Items in order: 2” (meaning that there’s two things in the order)
So, one thing in the order or 2? Their POS system is a POS. (yes, I am intentionally using ambiguous TLAs; deal with it)
And I’ll add on to the hijack on calling kids “monkeys”. Used to do it all the time, especially talking about my own kids. No racism intended; nothing thought of other than kids running around acting wildly. It’s a shame that the word has been hijacked as a racial comparison, because it’s quite descriptive of a bunch of 7-year-olds.
Me, neither. She needs a good cunt punt ala Brienne vs. The Hound.
Say what now?
“Hijacked”? White racists have been using the word “monkey” as a slur against non-white people literally for centuries. Okay, the slur can still be considered a “hijack” of the zoological meaning of “monkey”, in the same sense that calling a woman a “bitch” might be considered a hijack of the word’s core meaning “female dog”, but it’s definitely nothing sudden or new.
The only thing that’s new is the growing widespread expectation that white people in general will be careful of how they use the word “monkey” and be aware of its racial-slur connotations. I don’t think that’s really a shame, though.
Do recall that Michelle Obama was referred to as a “Gorilla in heels”. Referring to black Americans as apes, monkeys, etc. is common here. Disgusting, and shameful, but common. It is a racist go to in the US. I do not know about South Africa, but as a US citizen I know American flavored racism when I see it.
Your perspective might be the problem here. You’re not used to a place where blacks are the minority. The scenario described here is one where she was the only person of color and her cup was labeled with a common slur/stereotype attributed to people of color in the US (among racists). In a situation where a Black person is alone, these things happen.
You live where people of color are the majority, so you might not be as used to this sort of thing as we are.
You’re right, and the fact that this is a scandal when decades ago it would have been ignored is progress of a sort. But of course it shouldn’t be happening at all.
If it was somehow an honest mistake, they should have been tripping all over themselves to apologize rather than brushing it off. She didn’t get an apology until she contacted the manager later, and the manager still insisted that it was a mistake.
I dislike how Starbucks treated this as well. They gave the person more training. If you’re old enough to be a barista, you’re old enough to know better for fuck’s sake.
What’s next? Are you people gonna tell me that porch-monkey is racist now too?
Calm down Randal. Your grandma was a racist.
Yeah, when did some people start getting this idea that only deliberate insults require apologies, and unintentional errors don’t? Using slurs or insults accidentally, with no intent whatsoever to offend, still puts you in the Sorry Zone no matter how much you also assure the other party that it was accidental.
Do these people also think that you don’t have to apologize for stepping on somebody’s foot unless you did it deliberately?
Episode 10, season 4 of Game of Thrones where they’re setting the table for the next season. Brienne and Sandor Clegane (“The Hound”) get into a fight about who gets to take Arya Stark back to her family. Let’s just say The Hound shows no mercy.
Oh, garsh, we say “Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy” in the voice of Emilio Lizardo. All. The. Time. Forgot about that.
I need to watch that movie again. Oh, look - It’s on Pluto.
Is that really what you thought I was questioning, by what I quoted? I don’t know, I pretty much thought the “C” word was pretty much a no go on these boards, so as to tone down the misogyny and all that. Maybe I’m wrong.
I was shocked by the C word.
And amused by the rhyming slang. Odd, having both those emotions at once.
Anyhow, I’m waiting til I can watch football down at the pub and say “He needs a good Bollocks Boot.”
Calling someone a cunt is a no go. As far as I know there’s no prohibition on using the word in the anatomical sense.
Literally the only time I have ever heard that full term was in this utterly psycho viral Delta Gamma letter from an outraged sorority sister angry at her fellow members for being insufficiently…stereotypically soroityish, I guess. I’ve read that if she didn’t invent the term, she certainly popularized it. For varying definitions of “popular.”
That’s how I was introduced to it, as well. It has an evocative quality, certainly.