A lot of people hated him from the beginning because of the ridiculous stink he made about not wanting to play for the chargers. Having his dad step to try to influence the draft, etc. Seeming anything but happy when he was drafted #1 overall by them anyway, and all but forcing a trade. It was bush league bs.
Yeah, it’s fair to hate him for that. Hopefully you don’t give Elway a pass either.
EDIT: I think that last sentence sounds sarcastic, but it wasn’t meant to be.
Wow. That Gleason piece may have been the most moving piece of sports journalism I’ve ever seen. 
Giants had a good drive until the defense stiffened. They’d better watch out for those sacks.
Safety for the Giants! I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a long throw be called grounding.
I thought any one of the grounding factors would make it not grounding. Either outside the tackle box, past the line of scrimmage, or near a receiver. Don’t any of those being true negate grounding?
Wow. Safety on the Pats’ first play from scrimmage. That wasn’t in the gameplan.
Never mind.
If any incompletion behind the line of scrimmage is grounding, then a failed screen passing would be. If any pass that’s nowhere near a receiver is grounding, then you could get grounding for having your throwing arm hit while you were in the middle of a throw and have the throw go wild. I’ve just never seen a call like that so I’m confused.
Part number 2, no. You can throw it several yards downfield but into the bleachers and that would be grounding–I’ve seen that several times. But downfield in the field of play–that I’ve never seen.
How do they differentiate between grounding and deliberately throwing the ball away then? Throwing the ball at the sidelines when there’s no one open is a normal part of the game.
He was under pressure and was inside the tackles and there were no receivers near the ball.
You have to be out of the tackle box to do it, at least under current rules. I know Big Ben fell afoul of that at least once this year.
Wasnt just an incompletion it was not anywhere near an open reciever. I believe that on a grounding play the referees are allowed to use judgement as to the QB intent.
Holy cow, NE recovers a fumble only for it to be negated by having 12 men on the field…then NYG score a touchdown immediately after. There must be fire–not steam or smoke–coming out of Belichick’s ears.
Giants up 9-0. And in related news, many office pools are going to have some non-traditional winning squares…
You have to not run afoul of the other rules, meaning you can’t be in the tackle box or you have to throw in the vicinity of a receiver or you can’t be under pressure.
They differentiate between intentional grounding and throwing it away based on those rules.
Aha, I didn’t know “being under pressure” was one of the requirements. Seems like that could become a tricky judgement call.
And that is why they huddle before throwing the flag. Failed screen is near a receiver (usually). Hit arm, I believe, is treated as a deflected pass, so everyone is a receiver.
This was an unusually quick quarter for a Super Bowl. The second quarter better drag or my dinner won’t be ready at the right time to ignore Madonna.
Dammit, the Giants D is letting Welker run all over the place.