I agree with aldiboronti. I would have thought that anything that **cesario **could say about his predilection, he already has - repeatedly.
“Ask the Paedophile” is explicit that the person being asked is actually a paedophile. That information, explicitly stating that they are a paedophile, would need to be passed on to law enforcement.
It would be akin to "Ask the Crack Dealer"or “Ask the Man Who Murdered Someone”. They are an admission of illegal activity.
I really do not think that is correct. It is illegal to have sex with children and it’s illegal to have or produce porn of them - but merely being attracted sexually to children can’t be a crime. It doesn’t make sense. That would be a “thought crime” and not something that can exist under the concept of society we currently have.
We’re already starting with the assumption that anyone with such tendencies has actually acted on their urges, are we? Okay, that seems fair!
We’ve done this already. He shouldn’t be allowed to just keep repeating this ad nauseum. It’s just attention seeking, one issue, more of the same. Truly, it’s enough already.
I say open the thread and let the mods come en masse with big hammers to crush the fingers of the offenderatti that will rush in to rain fire and brimstone on the OP. Pedophiles are sick shit (in general, not a personal insult) but I think there is something to be gained for those with the curiosity in conversing with one in civil terms.
I am sorry that you will have to mod people you like for bashing someone you don’t but that’s part of the job.
Until you have admission of a crime, the pedophile is someone with a condition they cannot control and they can only refrain from acting on it, not from feeling that way. Not different (says the guy who is not a psychologist) from kleptomania or any other mental disorder.
If you feel the intentions of the OP are not legit and is doing it just for trolling, then punish him for trolling, not for having some non-user serviceable parts broken.
The idea is that people should be able to discuss damn near anything around here and do so in a civil fashion.
This subject is a tough one because of the revulsion that it engenders in some people – and rightfully so.
So any such thread will have to be scrupulously formed to exclude outright bashing and abuse and rigorously moderated to keep it from being a flamefest.
The thread should not be a soapbox for pleas to make kiddy diddling legal nor should it be a call to arms to drag self-professed pedophiles out behind the barn and shoot them.
From the registration agreement:
We are still formulating how we want to structure this, so it’s not permission to open a thread yet. Know that any such thread will be closely and carefully monitored and can and will be shut down the first time it goes bad.
More to come.
Actually, it is not illegal to BE a pedophile, what is illegal is engaging in acts of pedophilia. You can contemplate a crime, but so long as you do not actually commit it you are not a criminal. Until Cesario actually rapes a child he is not, in fact, a criminal. (I rather hope he can suppress the urge indefinitely)
In the US.
Which brings up a point - although an “Ask the pedophile” thread might be legal under the US First Amendment it might run afoul of laws in other countries. Doesn’t the UK have some very restrictive laws on such matters?
May I suggest that you open a sister thread in the Pit at the same time. Something along the lines of “I pit pedophiles”. With that thread in existence it might give posters a way to vent and prevent the GD thread from becoming a train wreck. Or slow it, any way.
Except that I have seen countless fresh faced newbies treated in a much less than civil fashion, for crimes as simple as witnessing about some evangelical church they’re keyed up on.
I’m all for free speech. I’m all for a light hand of moderation. But that doesn’t mean that this place must, by necessity, be completely standardless.
And the freedom to ignore him in MPSIMS, or flame in the Pit, is not enough of a consolation to abandon any sense of community decency.
I’m barely tolerating this guy now, and I rarely read anything he says----and that by accident.
If this is validated, I’m outta here.
+100
But if he is a troll, it is OK? I know what you meant, but the way you framed it kinda looked weird.
I know – I sometimes rewrite part of a post without going back and reediting the whole thing for flow, which is why I sometimes come across like a broken robot.
May I ask why any members of this board would support the thread? What questions do you plan on asking? I’m serious about this. What information could a pedo possibly have that you need access to? Especially since he’s already posted more information than a sane person could ever want to read? What does it feel like to bone little kids? Oh wait, he claims he hasn’t yet. Okay, so What does it feel like to want to bone little kids? Or maybe What’s sexy about little kids? Who was the first kid you fantasized about? If you could go Thailand and get a 10 year old prostitute, would you? Maybe 10 years old is too old for him? Is that why we need a pedo thread? So we could figure out exactly which age group he’d target if the law wasn’t holding him back (since we already know that’s the only reason he hasn’t actually raped a child)?
If you want to fight ignorance, there are people on this board with some really wackadoo beliefs. Go check the now closed “What Facts Are Obvious to You” thread, pick one of the dozens of stupid replies, and start a thread in GD. That would be far more beneficial to the membership in general than anything Cesario could tell us.
If someone wants to start a discussion and people want to partake within the rules, have at it. If you don’t like the topic, don’t partake. Go find a thread you like. If the discussion gets out of hand, well, that’s why we have mods.
What’s the issue here? Sheesh!
As a community we ought to have some say in what things are acceptable here.
In any case, it won’t end well because the last time there was a thread focused on Cesario like the proposed one ended up being a cluster fuck.
OK, and I understand SDMB can do what it wants as a private entity. However, I find the notion of “fighting ignorance” at odds with the outright preemptive prohibition of discussion of a particular subject matter.
The mods should be able to keep the thread from turning into a cluster fuck by enforcing the rules. No?
I’ve already tried that with political polls in IMHO. Instructions to vote and tell why,but take the debating to Great Debates=Massive Failure.
IMO, the whole “fighting ignorance” thing is a joke.
In any case, they’ll do what they want regardless of what anyone here says.
That’s because the iron fist of moderation doesn’t allow people to have a fucking discussion in IMHO.
Perhaps if you did your job and moved threads as needed, you’d harp on it less.