On an "Ask the Pedophile" thread

Who gives a flying rats ass?

Face facts … You would ban someone because they use bad language but not someone you know is an admitted peadophile?

I’ll trade you. You ban me and ban the garbage.You know for a fact I’m a dick.
I won’t try to be a sock, I’ll never post here again.

What do you have to lose?

If you won’t keep out the garbage I might as well not be here

So, in this hypothetical ask the pedo thread, you’re what, going to ask him how your butt looks in those jeans?

Inner Stickler, again, you can talk about illegal drugs, which is a pretty decent parallel for this situation, you just can’t promote the violation of drug laws.

You can say that you don’t think drugs should be illegal. You can say I would really really love to smoke the fuck out of some drugs, except the law won’t let me, so I don’t, which is why I want the laws to be different. Which is the same thing as what Cesario says, only with having sex with children in place of drugs.

So kiddy-diddling is certainly all alone in a category, only that category might better be described as the holy fuck under no circumstances can most of the SDMB be at all sane about this topic.

And now we’ve got tit-for-tat banning rants. This is incredible. The Straight Dope Message Board has officially gone collectively batshit.

Thanks, Rorshach!

There are several existential questions I would be interested in asking him, about what it is like to be trapped inside a sexual orientation that inherently encourages the commission of harmful and unethical acts; how he is able to live his life fighting these impulses; when he realized he was attracted to children; if he had sexual feelings as a child at the age of the children that he feels attracted to; if he has sought any help for this condition, through a support group or therapist; if he has ever considered trying to eliminate his sexual desires through the use of medication (I don’t like the term “chemical castration” because it sounds like sulfuric acid is being poured on someone’s balls); whether he would be happier not having any sexual desires at all, given our society’s (justified) intolerance for the acting on these desires; I could go on and on.

Something like this is what I was thinking of. Guy went to jail for possessing a comic book. No real, live, non-fictional children were involved in the creation of the comic, but dude went to jail all the same.

Me, given that, if there’s any possibility that a discussion of kiddie porn will occur, that’s any more in depth than an acknowledgment that it exists and it’s disgusting and should be stopped, I’d steer clear just to cover my own ass. Especially if it’s in writing, and easily findable via a web search.

I certainly wouldn’t blindly trust that an “Ask the Pedo” thread wouldn’t eventually go there. Heck, even if he “just” describes what physical traits in children turns him on, I’d be worried about toeing that line.

And that last sentence made me queasy. Bleh.

Please. This is nothing compared to other dramas. The only reason this particular one is remarkable is because the administration has upended years of tradition and is allowing someone who wants to change the law in order to have sex with children to continue posting here. This is a show of clemency unknown in these parts and it’s left several of us agog. Does the SDMB really want to be known as Pedophilia Apologist Central?

None of which requires him to have his own thread here.

If you’re that interested you could, for example, PM him.

You know, if you really wanted to know, you could PM him. Or, you know, spend 5 minutes on google and find an actual study about these issues.

By allowing Cesario to have a thread as suggested in the OP, is that not defacto sanctioning by TPTB?

I guess, but that reasoning applies to any questions you could want to ask anyone.

If there was a unanimous outcry from all the other posters here other than myself that the idea of this proposed thread was objectionable, I wouldn’t make a cause out of arguing for it to be allowed. But since several other posters seem to not have a problem with it, it seems like there shouldn’t be an issue of having it, and those not interested can simply choose not to read or participate in the thread.

That’s the standard now? If it can be handled somewhere other than the SDMB, it ought to be?

Somebody, anybody, please tell me, what’s the harm? If somebody doesn’t tell me what’s the harm, I’ll think about pedophilia. I swear I’ll do it.

That is not true. Jesus, do you really think that the moderation of the board wouldn’t love for this to just go away? It’s the years of tradition - the tradition that says you don’t get banned for a particular viewpoint - that’s keeping this silly thing going. And I’m not talking about the administration; I don’t really care what they do. I’m talking about the actual members just losing their minds because one guy wants to talk about the way in which he’s got problems, even though he’s actually pretty meticulous about stating that he doesn’t actually get busy with kids.

I think this particular topic is something he shouldn’t be allowed to bring up anymore.

Well, it was established a few years ago that I’m bound by the laws of Canada AS WELL as the laws of the United States. It was strongly recommended that I not post the name of a multiple-murdering, parent-killing 13 year old Medicine Hat girl. So, you can put “Publishing name of multiple-murdering underage teens from another country” on the NO NO list. You also can’t talk about illegal downloading, and I have a strong suspicion if I started a thread asking how to make my computer look like my IP is from the US so I can see blocked videos, the thread would get shut down in minutes.

Spot on.

OMG, you’ve found the clay feet upon which my argument was built on! Oh wait, no you’re just stating the obvious. My understanding is that at the moment we’re waiting for the mods to decide whether to allow the thread in the first place. Whether Cesario is eventually given the go ahead to start it is irrelevant to me because I don’t particularly care about the opinions of fake internet personas. Or many real ones for that matter. What I’m saying is that if you actually [i[do* care about these questions, you’d have PMed him already instead of putting on this elaborate show about pedophilia and cadavers.

You obviously haven’t read any of his other threads, because he’s already answered all of those questions – he doesn’t feel he needs to change, because he thinks society is actually fucked up. He’s actually a big advocate of doing away with age of consent laws, and thinks that adult-child sex should be LEGAL, and sees nothing disgusting, unethical, or harmful about it.

He’s said he sees nothing wrong with his orientation.

If he’s already answered the questions then whatever you’re scared of has either not happened or has happened already.

Which reminds me - what are you so scared of?

Report him to the police in whatever jurisdiction his IP appears to be in. For example, if he were in Canada, then report him to cypertip.ca; if Ontario, then the Ontario Provincial Police Child Sexual Exploitation section; if Toronto, then the Toronto Police Child Exploitation Section.

No, you do not report him for having committed a crime. You report him for promoting the fucking of infants and children. If your police are as on the ball as ours our, they will look into him and monitor him, with a view to catching him if he slips up. If your police are not proactive, and only get involved after crimes have been committed, then you have wasted five minutes on the phone.

I am well aware of how my local police operate with regard to pedophiles, for I have dealt with them through my job. I don’t know how yours operate. It could be that they are not proactive the way they are in my region.

Clowns. Especially the jack-in-the-box ones.